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BenVTrigger said:
Mazty said:
BenVTrigger said:
I've long thought this but the thing that made me make the thread was when I was reading about the sun.

They kept talking about how the center of the sun was 27 million d.rees. Thats nice and all and they might be right but we dont actually KNOW THAT for a FACT. We have never stuck a thermomenter in the center of the sun and read its temperature.

Theres millions of things scientists throw around as fact that arent actually proven. They are all based on theories and guesses. Which is fine but at least say "we think" or "its our best guess".


*smh*

You don't need a thermometer to guage a temperature reading. Also that thinking is just...broken. How do you know a thermometer correctly tells you the temperature of something? 

You can analyse wave lengths and other things emitted by the sun to get a temperature reading. I'm sorry but it really sounds like you're trying to dismiss facts because you simply don't understand the methodology that was used.

Lol no.  Not at all.

A scientific fact is something we know beyond question.  We have good estimates based on what we think is going on in the sun

We have never directly observed the center of the sun  and dont know beyond doubt the processes of the sun

If we dont know the exact process we dont know the exact temperature.  You sir are taking presumptions as fact.  We dont factually know how the sun operates.  We THINK we do


The problem there is you think that to know something you have to view it with your eyes. Does that then mean magnatism does not exist? What about gravity? How about love?

You don't understand how one process leads to another and obeserving said process with instruments means certain things. 

Pick up a university level physics book and you'll see what I mean. For the most part, the universe is logical, not random, therefore facts exist.