Fiscal Cliff negotiations in one chart.

[Kasz216]

nightsurge said:

Kasz216 said:

HappySqurriel said:
Aren't these numbers over 10 years? Meaning the real numbers are $10 Billion in interest savings, $3.3 Billion in spending cuts, and $63.2 Billion in tax increases to solve a $1,000+ Billion deficit? Aren't over half of those tax increases already spoken for in terms of other spending increases?

Yeah, it was meaningless on both sides to actually tackling the debt.  I just found the chart interesting though from a "who won" perspective.

Essentially the Republicans didn't get anything.

They got crushed really.

It's kinda funny really when everyone was talking about how they were the ones unwilling to move.

What are you talking about? Aside from Obama's plans wanting to extend some of the Tax Stimulus stuff, their plans look fairly similar every single time.

The fact that the agreed upon plan looks so far from both the Obama and Boehner plans is what I find truly shocking.

"Hey guys, we can't agree on minor differences over a 10 year budget cut, so instead of cutting out 2.5 trillion, lets only cut out 750 billion. Oh and instead of fairly equal portions coming from cuts and tax increases, lets just make it 80% tax increases and only 20% cuts..."

The party system in government is what ruins this country. Career politicians are what ruins this country. How about we make EVERY political office have a maximum of 2 terms or 8 years like the presidency? There is a reason we don't allow presidents to have more than 2 terms, because abuse/lust of power, corruption, etc grows deeper with time.

It's pretty simple really, the blue is what Obama wanted, the Red what the republicans wanted.  The cuts Obama wanted were nothing more but concessions to the republicans, just like the tax increases were concessions to the democrats.