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sc94597 said:
Scoobes said:
HappySqurriel said:
A question I would want answered with gun control is "What do you want to achieve?" and follow that up with "How does eliminating guns achieve that?" ...

If someone has the intent to do harm and is ready to break the law to accomplish that banning guns won't prevent them from doing harm; because they will probably be able to get an illegal gun, and even if they can't they could find some other way (bomb, kinfe, car, etc.) to do the harm they want.

The point most reasonable anti-gun people seem to make is that guns should have tighter regulations. The car argument came up earlier (cars kill lots of people everyday etc.), but firstly, a car has a different primary use but also has strict laws in place to prevent misuse. There are age limits, you have to take a written/theoretical as well as practical test before you can get a license to drive a vehicle and if you abuse that then you can have your license taken away. I don't see any reason why a similar thing can't be applied to guns.

There are "similar things." Just like a kid can drive a care without a license in a private road, so can one purchase and own a gun without a "lincense" in their own home. In most states open-carry also doesn't require a permit. Concealed-carry on the otherhand usually has restrictions in all states. One restriction is a background check, while in my state you must be authorized by the county sheriff after taking a 10 hour course. In fact, it's much more rigorous to get a concealed-carry permit than getting a license. There are plenty of other laws as well. 

I had a quick look through some of the US gun laws and in some states they don't look particularly stringent, especially when compared to driving a car (in the UK at least, not sure about drving laws in the US). It's not easy for someone outside the US to make sense of all the gun laws though as they seem to vary quite wildy between states.

Out of interest, which state are you in and what does the course you mentioned entail?