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Mummelmann on 26 December 2012
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disolitude said:
Mummelmann said:
disolitude said:
For everyone reading this thread and not knowing whats going on, here is something to keep in mind.

People that are anti Windows 8 in every thread:
dallas - hates Microsoft in general
ArnoldRimmer
HappySqurriel
Mummelmann

People that defend Windows 8 in every thread:
selnor
kowenicki
disolitude(myself)
man-bear-pig

Something to keep in mind...

So, I hate Micorsoft in general because I'm not a fan of Winows 8 and the fact that it takes its cues from Apples and tablets/smartphones? I love Windows 7, how can that be? I hated Vista as well, it was simply a poor OS, memory consumption, install size (yes, Win 7 also has a ridiculous install size but HDD's are a whole lot bigger on average now), poor performance, hardware usage limitations and stability issues.

I also liked Windows XP but did not like Windows 2000. As for MS as a company; I own a 360 and I use and love Windows 7 for all my gaming purposes, that doesn't mean I have to adore everything the entire company does. All companies have their drawbacks and faults, MS is no better or worse than any of them. I don't know where people get this notion that if you own a 360, you have to defend and praise every single move by the company behind it and never question a single decision they make. Same goes for Sony and Nintendo.

Bottom line; I do not like Windows 8 and like even less then fact that MS might be forcing me to upgrade by making it practically impossible to game on Win 7 only in the near future, however, not liking Windows 8 does not equal hating Microsoft as a company.

How stupid would that be for a PC gamer, when there would be no PC gaming in its current form without MS? I figured you'd know better.


I'm just saying you chronically dislike Windows 8, not Microsoft as a whole. Sorry if that wasn't clear...

I also can't understand why anyone that understands technology and looks back at Windows Vista today would say that was a poor OS. It had some driver issues due to a fundimental change in driver security (due to crazy hacking and viruses on Windows XP) and it had a slightly higher spec requirment than the market was ready for. Anyone that likes Windows 7 has Windows Vista to thank as it did all the groundowork.

Finally if you do have Wndows 8 installed and don't like how things are, I will gladly make it work exactly like windows 7 did for you. Just give me admin remote desktop priveladges and 15 minutes... :)


Windows 7 is everything people were hoping (and MS were saying) that Vista would be. Vista was a resource hog and failed to deliver the gaming performance one wanted, it was even touted as the very first "true gaming Windows". I kept XP all the way up to Windows 7 and it was fine, and I only had 2GB or RAM and an ATi X1950XTX anyway (not capable of DX10 rendering and Vista would have eaten most of my RAM).

As a standalone product, Vista is not horrible. My main point is; it failed to deliver on the somewhat lofty promises and even went directly against some of them (mostly memory consumption) and was a major letdown to a lot of users, me included. Windows 7 perfected the positives of Vista and is overall a smoother, more stable and less memory hungry experience.

I get the feeling that Win 8 was produced solely to hit the handheld/tablet/phone markets as a response to Google and Apple, the fact that it arrived so quickly only serves to further my suspicion. And that's fine for what it is, I just don't want tablet interfaces and functionality to set the norm for desktop computers and performance, its a poor match in my honest opinion (everyone in here knows that I'm not a fan of tablets and smartphones, or handheld consoles for that matter) and I don't like the direction the whole thing is taking.