Evidence for the existence of God

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CrashMan said:

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catprog said:

Grey Acumen said:

2) God proves beyond your ability to deny that he exists. You now no longer have any choice but to believe that he exists. You've given up your free will.

You could still believe in something less likely (I.e you were hyponised you to see what is described).

Therefore free will is mantained.

Please read properly

 

There is always those who believe what is beyond the ability of a rational person to deny. There is still to this day a group of strict biblical interpretests called the flat earth society that believe, since the bible says jesus ascended to heaven, there must be an absolute up and an absolute down, and therefore the earth is flat. All those telling you its round are lying or lack all faith, and all effects that seem to show you that the earth is round with your senses are optical illusions.

There is always a choice to deny, but if truely knowing something to be true takes away free will we are all screwed. Do you exist? Well yes I KNOW I have to exist because I am experiencing this right now (though I am not sure i completely agree with that proof either.) Any way, you no longer have a choice to believe that you exist so therefore you don't have free will. Utter nonsense.

Read properly, don't insert your own interpretation of it. I specifically said that if god PROVES BEYOND YOUR ABILITY TO DENY, then you've lost your free will.

I have free will because I CAN deny anything, even my own existence, even God, but I choose not to. However if he PROVED BEYOND MY ABILITY TO DENY, not simply proof that is enough that I wouldn't try to deny it, but BEYOND MY ABILITY TO DENY, then I've lost free will.