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LinkVPit said:
sc94597 said:
LinkVPit said:

The fact that you need a gun to stay safe must be a trigger to say something isn't right?

And yes people are responsible for the actions, but would that tragedy have happened or been less if he had a knife or other weapon? Chances are no or less deaths at least.

We have gun laws in the UK and last time I checked we haven't had a gun massacre. How many have the US had?

Nope, I view it as a signature that I live in a free society and I have individual power over my own life; the world's not a utopia. How safe would you have been 150 years ago when you were considered a subject of the British Empire? Probably very safe, but at the same time I wouldn't have considered you a free person. The only reason you live how you are today is beause if Britain became an oligarchy again the U.S (and other countries) would dissaprove and voice it through relations of all kinds, because of our ridiculous international policy to be in everybody elses business at the expense of our own people. 

You already agreed that it's impossible to get rid of guns in the U.S (30% of the world's arms), so the discussion is kind of moot. 

Anyway, my safety is quite fine. The homicide rate of my county is nearly zero, and the violent crime rate is much less than, say, London's. Why is this? Because most people have guns and a burglary is not worth dieing for. 

Well I live in a free society, I think they call them a democracy .You also live in one! And the 65 million who live here don't need one and those that do get a licence! If you bought that into the US it would be a start.

A democracy is bordered by mob rule, and democracies always self-destruct. Like I said, your country has had a history of oligarchy, what keeps it from reverting? Certainly not an unarmed populous. Just look at the censorship that happens in the UK. People get arrested for internet posts. I live in a constitutional republic, a governmental system in which the individual has power over his own life without the fear of the mob. Things have been changing recently, but I'm glad to say that we still have some time to preserve this before it is lost forever and I'll keep fighting to do so.