WiiU launched pretty well

[timmah]

ryuzaki57 said:

timmah said:

ryuzaki57 said:
As I said in another thread, that means nothing because WiiU has a short-term strategy. Strong launch line-up to lure the core gamers (which failed), 2D Mario to appeal to the traditional fanbase and Nintendo Land + gimmicky controls to reach as many casual gamers as possible during the holiday season. In January WiiU's momentum will disappear like Cinderella's dress, to never return again because 3rd parties will ignore a system on which they sell nothing.

If WiiU can't get ahead of the competition now, it is doomed. PS3 and 360 have possible price cuts for next year, while WiiU's price was set as low as possible so as not to deter casual gamers. Also, PS3/360 launch comparisons make no sense since PS3 retailed for 599€ at launch, while a WiiU costs half that price. Needless to say, core gamers like 3rd parties will heavily favor PS4/X720, and future known multiplatform games are not coming to WiiU.

Therefore for WiiU, it's now or never. From the sales, it's clearly never.

First of all, you're clearly trolling. Secondly, what is a 'core gamer'? I'm so tired of that obsurd phrase. Do you have any idea how hardcore NSMBU is from a difficulty standpoint? Much harder then BLOPS2 (and I play both). Third, not a single thing you said makes any sense at all, it sold better worldwide in its first 4 weeks then the 360 & PS3 did, but it's doomed based on that data? Why, because you say so? You then go on to say you can't compare it to the PS3/360 launch because PS3 was expensive, ignoring the fact that the 360 was not. Does the fact that the WiiU had a good launch threaten your coregamerness so much that you just have to troll to feel core again? Maybe if your coregamerness was bigger, you wouldn't have to compensate by lashing out so hard when you feel it threatened.

EDIT: Also, the system sold that well without a huge Nintendo hit to drive sales (Zelda, Pikmin, or 3d Mario), imagine what will happen when the big guns get released by Nintendo.

But, I'm probably wrong, so go ahead and tell me the future oh wise oracle from the clan of 'coregamer'.

Indeed, NSMBU and BLOPS2 offer different level of dedication. You can either play them time to time without aiming the top or trying to finish them from A to Z. In CoD for example, I never play in hard mode because I just want to experience the story. In multiplayer in the other hand, I play only sniper which is the trickiest weapon to use. "Hardcore" is a state of mind : you can play hardcore on WiiU (ZombiU comes to mind) but generally speaking those people tend to play on PS3/360 right now.

As for my "oracle", it's just my analysis. I gave arguments to support it and you are free not to share them. Btw how much did X360 cost at launch? Besides, Zelda, Pikmin or 3D Mario are not "huge" : if you look back at Wii software sales you'll see that 2D Mario or party/dance/fitness games sold WAY more. By the times the games you say come out, every Nintendo fan will have a WiiU already. The impact on hardware should be limited.

I really appreciate your sollicitude for my coregamerness but I'm really fine since 99% of the games I want are not for WiiU. I just don't like manufacturers throwing money at publishers all of a sudden to get exclusive content for series that have made their success elsewhere, in the sole purpose to sell more hardware.

I'm glad your coregamerness is ok now. :P I just think the 'core gamer' phrase is way to ambiguous and subjective. And franchises like Zelda, Pikmin, and 3d mario do sell very, very well... and they also move systems in a big way. A lot of fans of those franchises are waiting for those to come out before they get the WiiU.

In NSMBU, there is only hard mode, sometimes I find myself cursing those Japanese programmers.