This is why I don't like debating religion

[Runa216]

timmah said:

Yes, let's dissuade people from the teachings of Jesus. It would be terrible if we started loving other people as much as ourselves, not killing people, not loving Money more than God (not being greedy), giving to the poor, helping our neighbor, turning the other cheek (meaning not returning an insult with another insult), caring for the sick, accepting those society casts out as undesirable, or any of the other crazy things He told us to do. What would this world be like? It just sounds awful! Why, my church might go to a 3rd world country to build another orphanage next year if that was taught! Or we might continue our program to help local families in financial distress (without even preaching to them) through offerings and a non-profit thrift store we run with volunteers, that would be terrible! God forbid, we might even FUND THAT ORPHANAGE WE BUILT!! Oh no!

you are aware that despite your claims that religion teaches generosity and love, that's certainly not the only thing people use it for. That, and you really don't NEED religion to be generous or kind.  Outside of religious debates, I'm quite an agreeable person, and arguably one of the most generous, helpful people you will ever meet, and I do all of that without the aid of some mythological father figure pointing a disapproving ethereal finger at me.  

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc.  the faulty assumption that correleation between two variables implies that one causes the other. Just becuase some people who believe in God erect orphanages and donate to causes doesn't mean they do it becuase they believe in god. Just like people who judge others based on race, sexuality, or gender aren't doing it becuase God told them so, but they certainly seem to think that's the case and they get away with it becuase of religious freedom.