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dsgrue3 said:

This is beyond pedantism. Observation isn't predicated upon capability. We defined it as humans. The term existence didn't exist until we existed and defined it. That's like attempting to apply laws of science before the Universe came to be. 

I hope you understand the difference. 

From an objective third party intelligent being, indeed these such things existed (given the known physics definition for existence). 

My question is, did they exist prior to us observing them as a 3rd party intelligent being.

At the moment the were at play into creating sentient beings, did they exist (at that time when we were not existent)?

This is not pedantism, it's a quest for truth.