How to Destroy an Athiests in a argument! (Updated with poll)

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dsgrue3 said:

Player1x3 said:

So basically...all atheist and anti christian sources right? Yup not biased at all

http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm

...damn look all those sources. Sorry, you're gonna have to try again.

And i love how you desperately (and pathetically) try to over simplify communism to make it appear harmless by trying to sum it up in one sentence. Its reaally sad. Well, first of, lets pretend that there arent multiple types of communism and that its not just a new age marxism. Communism (in general) and all its founders despised and completly rejected religion. Most communist states were atheist states (USSRS, China, Albania...) and they all compeltly rejected religion and presecuted its followers...or do you have any other reason why was religion so hated amongst all communist leaders and their countries??? Please, im dying to hear it

And dont tell me you're that naive and stupid to believe Crusades weren about power as well. Or are the good old double standards kicking in again? When atheist kills religios people, its just for power. When a ''christian'' person kills a non believer, its because of his evil religion, right?

I didn't cherry pick sources, I cited every single one listed on that website?

The absence of religion isn't the religion of absence. You cannot state that because a country (or leader) isn't religious that none of its citizens are. Plenty of Communists are religious. Your argument, again, is unfounded in logic or reason but based purely upon your own suppositions.

Crusades primary interest was about religion, not power. Power was secondary. Power was prime in the case of the leaders you mentioned, and not atheism.

Again, completely different. Just acknowledge this fact so we can move on. Every single person in this thread has told you that your comparison is flawed. Own it.

Hahaha, this is getting kinda funny. Keep grasping at those straws. What the fuck do suddenly the citizens of a country have to do with anything? There were religious people in communist countries, of course. But they faced daily fear of persecution and maybe even imprisonment because of their religion. Let me post that link for you again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_anti-religious_legislation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist_atheism

Religion was merely AN EXCUSE to start the crusades, power was the primary interest (just like with EVERY started war). Big difference between those 2.  You would do good to remember them