S.T.A.G.E. said:
DanneSandin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
And there in is the rub, Nintendo needs the casuals to defeat their competition. Without the casuals the Nintendo will lose 50- 60% of their consumer base.
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Yeah, but I wasn't discussing whether or not Nintendo needs casuals to thrive. I was talking about the fact that these "experts" already had judged Wii U on beforehand, but was positively surprised when they tried it. Only goes to show lots in the business is biased.
And regarding whether or not Nintendo needs casuals: No they don't. If they only got good 3rd party support they'd crush both MS and SOny. If they had the same kind of 3rd party support, the games looks and runs just as good on all 3 consoles, it all comes down to 1st party games. And we know who dominates that category.
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Keep saying Nintendo can beat Sony and Microsoft at their own game by having a console with adequate third party support and less power. By your will alone you will usher their destruction. Nintendo couldnt catch a break the second Sony entered the industry and Microsoft only helped them by creating a roadblock because Microsoft wants Sony to fear them. Nintendo can win by being Nintendo, the family to teen oriented console. Casuals can only help them.
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I think you're reading way too much into what I'm saying. You imply I want to see the destruction of MSony, which I don't. And what I said is that if all three consoles had the same 3rd party support, choosing a console would come down to 1st party games (as far as games goes anyways). I therefore thought I implied that all 3 consoles would be just as powerful, but I guess you missed that. Sorry about that.
And regarding Nintendo not catching a break when Sony entered the business; Nintendo have only themselves to blame for the utter domination of PS1 and 2. They (Ninty) had mistreated 3rd parties for years and refused to switch over to the disc format, and sticking with cartridges. That's the main two reasons why Sony was so successful. And this can be observed in this past generation when MS got good 3rd party support, and in doing so took a large bite out of Sony's market share.