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Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mr Khan said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Kasz216 said:
 

If you want to invent a disabling gun.  Feel free.


I wouldn't mind that. However, then you need to deal with an un-armed criminal... I don't believe that dis-arming gun would help you in that scenario.

To simplify for the sake of argument, let's take Star Trek. The home invader has his phaser set to kill, i have mine set to stun. I shoot first, he's unconscious, call the cops, he goes to jail. He shoots first, i die. No different than the scenario you're describing, except that it averts needless bloodshed.



Okay, an incapacitate type scenario. I'm for that. I just thought of something that knocks the weapon out of someones hand. So like a tazer cops have though if you miss you are fucked because those are one shot.

And i'm willing to admit it's an imperfect solution. As i said further up, we do have to be pragmatic, but we have to look for some solution for preventing gun crime other than "everyone buy a gun," and ideally killing someone just for breaking into your home shouldn't be justifiable (understanding that it is justifiable under self-defense), but ultimately a man shouldn't be killed for comitting a crime.


I don't know if this changes your opinion at all... but it's actually EXTREMELY hard to be killed by a gunshot.   Getting shot is only fatal about 15% of the time.

Assuming you aren't killed immediatly, you have an 95% chance of surviving if you make it to a hosptial. 

 

You actually have a better chance surviving being shot then you do being stabbed... at least, if your talking about the kind of knife used for self defense/robbing someone.


EDIT: Meant to say Pistol wounds.  Not all guns.


I think that would be largely due to caliber too. I think the chances of living from a .45 shot is unlikely while a .22 sometimes only breaks the skin (I saw an episode of cops with a drive by shooting and the guy who got shot was bearly bleeding in the leg). When I get a gun I will have a .22 LR because of this and the fact rounds only cost $0.03 while .45 are like $0.50. On top of round expense a .45 can cost upwards of $1,400 while a .22 costs about $350

I also don't think anti-gun crowd really differentiates between these. They think a hand gun is a hand gun and equates it to movies like Dirty Harry or Pulp Fiction. They fail to realize a .22 is pretty much the size of a airsoft pellets in width just longer and projects at higher velocity. In fact I saw someone get shot my an airsoft gun in the face and went through his cheek and about 3 feet away.