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all these arguments about this or that are just detrimental to the whole process of playing games and fun. i'm sorry i don't care about how a game looks (unless it is grainy and utterly contemptable) but how it plays. so if you did replace ALL OF MGS characters with Mario, Pokemon or etc. and their graphic styles. and it played the same and was still immersive i'd play it. i also love the mario, zelda, metroid, infinity argument. how is that sooooo much different than ff (pick a number) with their "crystal" save the world from evil story line? or devil may cry in which your character (the bad@$$) has to save the world from impending evil? and on and on and on? you're either blatantly, purposedly blind if you're going to be one sided and say. well these games are the same, but then tout another game as being superior or better. the bottom line is ALL THEMES have been done, tried and true. whether it's you playing the hero, anti-hero, or villian its ALL a rehash of a tried and true concept.