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VGKing said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
However, the same site also reported onproblems with the chip’s manufacturing with one source calling the component quality ‘painfully low’. The issue is rumoured to have cause production delays.

RROD again?

The site suggests PS4 will launch Spring or Autumn 2014.

 Good news if true.

The name of the PS4 project is Thebes. As you might have guessed, other than it being an AMD CPU and GPU, we don’t have much more specific details. It is said to be a 28nm part, likely fabbed at Global Foundries or IBM for the first run, and out after Oban. That would most likely be the spring of 2014, but it could be fall of that year too.

I don't like the CPU + GPU together from AMD... seems too weak. But I like the 28nm talk .

lol.

RROD again.  even now... RROD.  lol.  It isnt the quality thats low, its the supply.  You are btter than tha.... er... hang on.

PS4 delayed is good news?   It really, really isnt. 

Don't coment if you don't know what you're talking about...Let me explain what low yields means to you.....

Lets say the yield is 60%, that would mean that out of 100 consoles made, only 60 work. The lower the yield, the more supply you need since most of what you're producing is going to the trash.

From what we know the next Xbox isn't being mass-produced yet. They're still only making dev kits. So its too early to tell if this will be another RROD situation.

I'll call you out, you're absolutely clueless on the RROD issue.

Low yields doesn't mean unreliable chips, it just means less per wafer which means the price is higher per chip.  It affects cost and nothing else.

The main thing you misunderstood is low yields had no effect on the 360 reliability, it was due to a lack of understanding during the design phase of the effect of switching manufacturing to lead free solder.  The reduction in manufacturing quality combined with a motherboard that was too thin and a poor cooling design resulted in the reliability issues.  This was partly due to inexperience of building a completely custom board with custom cpu and gpu rather than tried and tested components like the original Xbo. 

Contrary to your beliefs, the slim 360 proved they have learnt their lessons as it was instantly reliable despite being a complete redesign.

Feel free to claim I don't know what I'm talking about but you may want to keep in mind I've fixed over a thousand 360's (plenty of Wii, PS3's, Psp' s, DS's too) of all age,  models and faults so my knowledge isn't that of some internet warrior.