pezus said:
timmah said:
pezus said:
None of that is relevant to what I'm saying.
People keep telling me "Oh, but Wii U will have much better looking games in the future than PS3/360 games" but then do a complete 180 when talking about 720/PS4. AS IF they wouldn't increase the power significantly 8-9 years later. It's very, very easy to make a lot more powerful console today and next year than in 2005/2006. Wii U ports just about match PS3/360, while 360/PS3 ports early on already showed huge strides over last gen. This is a pretty significant clue about Wii U's jump.
It's in Sony and MS's best interest to distance themselves as far as possible from Nintendo's system because they will not want Nintendo to get their 3rd party support.
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History is not irrelevent, there's no way that games developed for the Wii U in a couple years will only match rushed launched ports, no way at all. Logically it follows that, if day 1 lauched ports with little to no optimization are about on par with some of the best of the current gen, future games will be a meaningful improvement of that (so there will be a graphical leap from PS360 to WiiU, especially when the more advanced features of the *much* more modern GPU are used). You greatly undervalue the power of optimization for a new architecture given the complexities of today's games.
No doubt the PS4 will be more powerful, the question is by how much. Does the latest PS4 dev kit being a modified PC with an AMD A10 CPU/GPU combo (not a beast by any stretch) & Sony talking about making 'very affordable' hardware mean nothing? It'll be a jump, but not anywhere near what you think in my 'umble opinion. No way it's as big as the last gen's jump for any console. If you got your wish on the PS4 and they pulled another 'PS3' on us, Sony would probably go out of business from the losses, and that's not good for the industry since it stifles competition. It's going to be interesting to watch the reaction if my opinion turns out to be correct. In any event, the PS4 is going to be great, no doubt there. I may even get one if the price is right!
Now that the thread has been totally derailed... :p
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The main reasons PS3 was so expensive was the new Blu-Ray drive and The Cell (just look at PS3 vs. 360 price difference early on). They should be going for a more mainstream CPU architecture this time and Blu-Ray is pretty cheap nowadays. I don't know if the jump will be as big, but it will be noticable from the start, that's for sure.
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Also, considering Sony games are more about graphics than Nintendo games, I assume there will be a lauch title designed to show that off (something which the Wii U doesn't have, even ZombiU was originally for the 360 I believe). All I'm saying is, the 1st party AAA games are going to blow these quick ports out of the water when they finally arrive.
