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Teflon02 said:
the Sackboy nerf is COMPLETE BS. You guys are not Sackboy players like me so you guys won't know the sense, I can understand either making it longer to gain specials or nerfing moves but they overdid it by doing both and over nerfing the jam ball. The damn jam ball takes like 1.5 secs to launch And it only gains 10 ap now!? really. I can see the cakinator issue cause I know the one or 2 ppl I've ever seen use him besides me only use that. But they barely nerfed it, instead nerf the ball. Then on top of it Sackboys level 1 is complete garbage, and his level 2 is good buy not great, his level 3 is also not OP, with sly I always get 6 kills with his lvl 3 in ffa, same with sackboy unless a idiot gets cause at the very last second of my lvl 3. I've always got atleast 5 with Narikos also. Ratchets gets 6 or 7 also.
Now here are the games real issues
Kratos AP Gain in general is way to fast, I got 3 lvl 3s with Kratos in 3 mins, I can understand 2 but 3 is ridiculous.
Raiden is complete BS with Lvl 1 and 2, his Lvl 2 can easily get atleast 4-6 kills if a good player is using him. and his lvl 1 is so long and such a big range as well, and basically impossible to dodge cause every move can be combos into it basically.
I don't know the Jak issues, he was fine for me when I tried him but I'm not great with him so I don't know.
Sir Dans Specials Smh completely unfair. his level 1 can't even hit half the charaters unless they jump. his lvl 2 is only good against noobs and his lvl 3... wtf is that, its so dumb, I've never been caught by that pathetic name.
Narikos pauses between moves where you can change needs to be shorted. I can never do a full combo cause this. I have to do full air combos only cause its useless on the floor and even worse smh her lvl 2 is complete bs. who'd really be nit by that.. Its so slow and all you gotta do is get above it. or special her cause she can't move.
I hope they go back and fix this sackboy nerf, they overdid it. btw I don't spam with him, I play with all of his moves


I don't play Sackboy so I can't say anything about that but I agree with almost everything but Raiden's LVL2. It's better than most but it's really not that great in my opinion. Most stages, it's not that hard to avoid. It's completely crazy on Dojo but on Franzea or the LBP stage, it's nothing. Also, if used at the right time, i've Parappa get 5 kills with his lvl 2 once. And 3 or 4 times i've seen him get 4 kills. Considering that, I really don't think Raiden's Lvl2 is that big of a problem. HIs level one... mmm... I can agree that the range it covers and for how long it lasts is pretty powerful. If he combos into it centre stage, you can get out of it. If he does it in a corner, you're likely very fucked. 

Oh, and Nariko's lvl 2 really requires that you not have players on both sides. Just 1. Unless you're sure non of them have a super waiting. It  not a good super but a lot of lvl two's are kinda bad. Case and point - Sweet tooth. Jak, Drake and Sir Dan also all have really avoidable Lvl2's. In the case of Sir Dan, it's kinda sad as his LVL2 is really his best. 



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