The REAL Problem With Xbox Live (OPINION)

[Mr Puggsly]

riderz13371 said:

Wow, what an incredibly original argument! I'm going to respond just using the power of common sense.

First of all, stop pissing and moaning about every little thing Gold members have access too. There is an understanding that only Gold members get access to social and streaming services. Silver members basically just have access to the market place, simple as that.

360 fans don't really care about party chat. Its just amusing Sony has failed to duplicate it simply due to the limitations of the hardware.

Feeling you're entitled to free online services is ridiculous. Bear in mind providing online services is not free and more expensive than you presume. MS doesn't charge publishers for bandwidth, Sony does. MS operate servers all servers except for EA, Sony leaves all of that to publishers/developers. If you don't like paying for services you feel entitled to, even knowing there is a lot of overhead to run those services, than go with the free alternatives. Since there are free options there should be no need to piss and moan about what Microsoft does for their platform.

I agree with your DLC comments for the most part. However, it has nothing to do with Xbox Live.

Anybody who pays for Xbox Live simply to do things that can be done on a PS3 or even a Wii, I would suggest buying a different platform. However, the millions and millions of us that use Xbox Live for exclusive features and to play exclusive games online, we're okay with paying for Live because we're getting something no other platform offers.

I think the only thing you feel terrible about is people choose to spend their money on something they personally enjoy and you don't.

A person who replies with actual critisicm? Magical. 360 fans do care about party chat, it's all they talk about when they say live is superior to psn...Where have you been? Why shouldn't I be entitled to free online service? I buy the console, buy the game, and then I'm not allowed to play the multiplayer side of the game? What? The DLC thing was supposed to be an example as to how Microsoft is setting a bad example. Developers caught on to the DLC craze and realized the potential profits of releasing DLC. Nintendo/Sony see the profits Microsoft is making with XBL and they might decide to join them and then we would all have to pay for features that should come with the console. The only exclusive feature paying for Xbox live that I can think of is party chat. Name me something else because nothing comes to mind. 

Seriously, the average 360 fan is not talking about party chat. Give it a rest. Its just something Sony fans focus on because they can't have it.

You are allowed to play the multiplayer side of the game, just not for free on the 360. Sony decided they and 3rd parties will eat those costs and good for them! When online services are available for free, that's great! But being entitled to free online services implies MS shouldn't be allowed to charge for online services. And since I'm not a communist I disagree.

Why do you think developers are okay with MS charging for online services? Because MS takes away their financial burdens of offering online services!

Well your example was bad. MS charged for Live and created a very robust online service never seen on a console before. That forced Sony to compete and create a better online service as well. I'm not sure how that's the same as publishers abusing DLC to make more money. I'll repeat, your example was bad.

The Xbox has a lot of streaming apps not found on PS3 or Wii. I also consider exclusive games as exclusive features. For example, where else am I gonna play Halo 4 or Gears 3 online? I enjoy playing those games online more than any other titles, so that a lone is a good enough reason to pay for Live.