How something can come from nothing

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Jay520 said:

GameOver22 said:
Well, the argument in the OP is flawed, particularly because we don't talk of laws having existence. Abstract laws and rules, by definition, do not exist, even now. Point being, someone cannot point to law, and say, "There it is. It resides under my dining room table." In other words, a law is not a thing.

An entity doesn't have to be concrete, tangible, or an object for it to exist. It still exists, just not physically. And we do talk about laws in terms of existence. For example, there's a law in the U.S. making murder illegal. However, there is no law stating that breathing is illegal. That law does not exist. There are laws that exist that govern our universe. For example: water freezes when under 32 degrees. This fact or law exists, even if we cannot touch it. Laws/facts describe our universe. And before the universe ever existed, if such a time is possible, then its safe to say there were no laws.

That's not entirely true.

Also, I'm definitely dropping Physics next year.