JWeinCom said:
Dgc1808 said:
JWeinCom said:
forevercloud3000 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Uhg, back from work. Have been playing PSASBR for the last 3 hrs. Its pretty fun but I think its time for P4G now :). I will give my assessment of the game.
-AllStars is noticably balanced from the second I picked a character and used him/her in the tutorial modes. It feels so intricate. I have played SB before and have never been a fan due to feelings of vastly over powered characters(Link), and completly bizarre levels that shift around too much for me to ever get a footing on how to fight in the terrain. I do not feel this way at all about this game. The levels themselves pose an obstacle to getting to your main goal, but never feels too in the way.
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Link is actually one of the worst character in Brawl and Melee. Also, from what I've experienced there's more shifting and interacting in All-Stars' levels than in Brawl.
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Not from my expeience in those games. I have a couple of friends who play in competitions for the game. They always own everyone with Link, Kirby, and Luigi ...... And from what I am told they are S Teir fighters.
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If that's what your experience tells you, then you are clearly not a big Smash player. Not an insult, just the way it is. Link is awful. Kirby is mediocre. Luigi is bad. Just because you have a few friends who can win with them in small local tournaments does not mean they are any good. If your friends tell you they're S tier fighters, than your friends are either misinformed or they're liars.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=321738
This is an how good or bad each character is according to actual top players.
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While that list is generally accurate, i wouldn't complete agree with it. Link and Kirby, sure. Call them crap. Luigi in the right hands dominates. Insane recovery, very fast attacks and his Up-B used well makes for some very easy kills. Just need a good approach and defensive game due to his poor range. Tournament Luigi players are amazing to watch.
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The tier list is generally a work in progress, but I agree on Luigi's placement, and if anything he should be a bit lower. He has pitiful range, low speed, and his floatiness makes for pretty poor approach options. Worse yet, his slidyness hurts his defense. A lot of attacks that would be entirely unsafe against the rest of the cast are safe against Luigi unless he power shields. Luigi's Up B is a good tool, but it only works if you make a truly excellent read or if you could jab combo into it, which Luigi can only do against a small portion of the cast, and only if he can actually get to close range. Despite all of this, Luigi can compete against low tier characters and SOME mid tier characters. He even has a few isolated good matchups in the higher tiers, but ultimately he's just not that good.
Tournament level Luigi players are really fun to watch and make the character look good, but that could be said about most characters. Watch someone like Reflex play Pokemon Trainer, and you'll be convinced the character is better than he really is. :)
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Because I'm tired of derailing the thread with all of this talk about Smash I'll just say this: You pretty much just said everything wrong with Luigi but also what a skilled player needs to do in order to work around his weaknesses. So yea, you agree with me that Luigi isn't a bad character but a weak one.
I get this, man. At my school, Smash was treated as a national sport (which is why I had to get some flack for playing PSAS there) until 1 campus had it's consoles stolen, and the other campus I go to had it's Wii just break down, and we've got tons of tourney/skilled players. There are characters in SSBB that are bad, but I just don't consider Luigi one of them. The game's just not balanced and it's pretty clear that a competitive fighter wasn't the developers goal. Actually, I remember reading on Neogaf that the Smash directore felt he made melee too competitve. It blew my mind reading that and knowing how bad Pichu was in that game.
Anyway, I'm done.
