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Jaywood2010 on 18 November 2012
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Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:


1. I agree with. But cinimatics were already there before uncharted so it did not bring anything new.  It was just a great game that perfected its story with good gameplay mechanics.

2.  I agree with youm but once again sony did not make uncharted.  Sony said make a realistic game, they did not say make a cinimatic puzzle shooter game.  That was on naughty dog.

3. Disagree. They did not shape cinimatics what so ever as that has been there for a while before uncharted, and even then unchated was made by naughty dog not sony.

4.  PS1, PS2 definitely shaped many things for this generation but the most obvious game changers this generation going into next generation has been 1. Motion controls.  2.  Achievements.  3.  Multiplayer gaming.

While sony has helped shape this industry in the previous generations they did not bring anything new to gaming this generation.  I will give credit where it is deserved.  Naughty Dog gets credit for making an amazing game but it wasnt even the most inluential game this generation.  That would probably be call of duty.  I dont even like call of duty all that much and I can admit that.  It has the whole cinimatic approach, online gaming, perks, aim down sights, etc etc.  

Then when it comes to TPS, I would say Gears is the most influential with its cover system.  Am I giving credit to MS for EPICS success, NOPE.  EPIC made it MS published it.  MS had nothing to do with how the game finished just like Sony had nothing to do with how Uncharted finished.  All I can say about publishers is it was a smart choice investing in those games.

1. Great, you agree that Uncharted had a great impact on the industry.

2. Great, you agree that Sony/PS3 were necessary for Uncharted's existence.

3. This does not make sense. You just admitted that Uncharted had a great impact on the industry. You also admitted that Sony/PS3 were necessary for Uncharted's existence. Take this sentence:

The PS3/Sony were necessary for Uncharted's existence.

You have agreed to this. Now substitute "Uncharted" with "Uncharted's impact on the industry." This should be fine because you agreed that Uncharted has had a great impact on the industry. Therefore, you should also agree to the following.

The PS3/Sony were necessary for Uncharted's impact on the industry. 

Now, just changed "Uncharted's impact" to just "a great impact" and you must also agree to this:

The Ps3/Sony were necessary for a great impact on the industry.

You should agree to this final sentence because I've only included things that you've agreed to. And this sentence, more or less, says the PS3 was at least a partial factor in shaping this generation. If you still cannot understand this, then I won't respond again. I've spelled it out to you as clear as possible. If you still can't see it, then there's nothing more I can do.

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As for everything else you've written, it doesn't matter if Uncharted was more influential than Call of Duty or Gears of War; that's not the point. The point is Uncharted was influential. 

Also, the fact that you continue to say things like,"Sony had nothing to do with how Uncharted finished." even after the link that explicitely stated that Sony directly told ND to change Uncharted shows me that either you have a really short memory, or you're being deliberately obtuse. Either way, it's growing tiring.


Im being obtuse?  Ive told you exactly why I think its not yet you keep pushing it on me.  I dont even think Uncharted is the most influetnial game this generation.....