RolStoppable said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Mediocrity refers to being ordinary, unoriginal, common place.
Lets be honest with ourselves here, what he states, while sounding kind of harsh, is totally true. Mario is on itteration what.....24? not including the blatent spin offs. How many re-releases and slight tweaks have there been?Far too many to count. Zelda/Metroid are no where near as bad but Nintendo has a tendency to take a game that was good and run with it forever. Need I say more than Pokemon? The series has made less than incremental improvements since it started and has put out almost just as many games as Mario, in half the time, partly due to the fact they always release in TWO's(then the mega release shortly after). Someone earlier in this thread(or another, can't remember) was telling me that although LBP PSVita is quoted multiple times as "best in the series", it is currently the lowest rated, they said that made sense because a series loses luster after a few entries and unless you do something COMPLETELY radical points will decrease little by little. Well when I heard this I could not help but think of Mario and the bajilion almost identical entries and then say to myself "WHAT?!".
Are these games still fun?Yes, but doesn't change the fact the formula barely ever changes outside of predictable additions.
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If we count all Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Land games, then NSMB2 is iteration #9 overall and the fourth on handhelds. Pokémon has hit generation 5 with Black/White, so if you want to count Yellow and others separately (although you shouldn't with the exception of Black/White 2), it would amount to ten games.
NSMB2's Metascore is below 80, so the game got treated just as harsh, maybe even harsher, than LBP Vita.
What he stated is true, provided we ignore reality. But should we?
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Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros 2, Super Mario Bros 3, Super Mario Land, Super Mario World, Super Mario Land 2:6 Golden Coins, Super Mario World 2:Yoshi's Island, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, New Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros 2, soon to have Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario bros WiiU
I count 17 Marios, not including the spin-offs.
I count 20 Pokemon games according to this list...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_video_games#Main_handheld_series