dahuman said:
the2real4mafol said:
DirtyP2002 said:
I don't feel like arguing, so here are just some points:
- Cheaters, there are more cheaters on Steam than on XBL. If you get caught you are banned from the service. If you get caught on steam you are banned from one server of one game.~ Steam is based on the community rather than the games and Microsoft seems to be strict on cheating anyway
- Messenger integration - no explanation needed.~ Ever heard of skype?
- Voice Chat integration, works perfectly fine on XBL. You need to download another software like TS on steam and there is no integration at all. Some players are using different software like vent.~ Skype again
- Customer Service, this is basically unknown on steam. MS customer service works fine.~ That's because valve is only offering a service, while microsoft offer hardware and service. The PC hardware has little to do with steam.
- App integration, XBL offers so much more Apps now and they are all very well integrated. Steam can't do anything like that.~ If you didn't know steam is starting to sell PC software now, it doesn't need apps, that's what the internet browser is for
- Achievements are way better on XBL than on Steam.~ Steam doesn't take achievements very seriously like playstation or xbox does
- Avatars~ I'll let you have that one, Xbox does have some good avatars out there (not worth paying xbox live for though)
- Community feeling, XBL is way more community friendly than Steam~ the community on steam depends on what you play really, while on Xbox, the community is more about you and your friends really
- Security, XBL is more secure than Steam.~ I agree, xbox live has decent security
Xbox 360 is good as it's really a all in one machine, but the subscription cost shouldn't be there at all
That were just some points that matter to me. I really like Steam Deals though. That is where steam > XBL IMO. I hope some Black Friday deals make their way to Germany as well.
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Is the Euro version of Steam different or something? Valve does perma ban if the games use VAC as anti cheating, but that's a publisher's choice, not Valve's. You don't need Skype for messenger, Steam has a messenger and fully integrated group voice chat. Service must be a per country thing, in the US, the service is great and responsive. Are people seriously saying that computers don't have applications? ^^;; holy shit...... not to mention most new Steam games all come with achievements and the player base on PC in the US are pretty mature and friendly for the most part. I also have the freedom to change my avatar to whatever I want o_O; I'm really confused, Steam must really suck outside of America or something.
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They attack Steam yet need to acknowledge the fact that Xbox Lives existence is a carbon copy of PC online gaming streamlined for the masses. The largest innovations are on PC for multimedia expansion. I connect my laptop to my TV and I dont need cable.
