Nintendo defence thread

[pokoko]

sethnintendo said:

pokoko said:

sethnintendo said:

Core and Casual didn't come to be until the Wii. Before that no one called themselves a hardcore gamer.

Hardcore is a term that has been around forever and has long been associated with gaming, just in a much different context than people are (mostly incorrectly) using it now.  It just means someone who is into something to the point of excess.  When I played MMOs, well before the Wii released, the hardcore players were those who were always online or always raiding.  Gaming was their focus and a much larger part of their life than for the average player.

I played WoW for awhile (along with SC, Diablo, etc).  We called the people that didn't know shit noobs.  We didn't call the good players hardcore.  There was that stupid leet, 1337, elite term that went on for awhile though (mainly in SC).

Yeah, I remember 1337 speak, I mocked it often.  I started playing WoW not long after it came out and was in a few raiding guilds.  On the servers I played, most of use definitely talked about the difference between raiders and hardcore raiders.  It was a known thing, with some people being proud of the term "hardcore raider" and others wanting to avoid it.  I never wanted to be in a guild that raided more than 3 nights a week but my friend was in a high level guild that raided 5 nights a week and spent the other two nights getting ready.  They reveled in the term "hardcore".

We also used it in the Korean MMOs I played, in reference to the guys (and girls) that lived and breathed the game and had EVERYTHING.

Edit:  However, you're right about the core/casual dichotomy.  That's post-Wii.  Before that, as far as I can remember, it was only "kiddie" or "adult" games.