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askel50 said:

What baffle me about the US election system is the fact that the minority of the votes inside a state doesn't count. I mean if you live in a state that has strong republican or democrat roots you can very well save yourself the trouble of going to vote. Maybe that's the reason there is an high abstention rate (by european standards I mean).

If you check out the maps I've been posting, you can see that although some states have trends, the idea of having "strong rep/dem roots" (being sure to vote one way every election) is a very recent development in the US, and could change at any time depending on the candidates.

 

zuvuyeay said:
interesting dengle,thanks,what did the map loo like with bush jnrs 2 wins

The 2000 election was the year the electoral map took its modern shape:

The only differences between these results and the 2012 results are Obama's wins in Nevada, Colorado, Ohio, New Hampshire, Virginia, and possibly Florida.

2004:

No state that voted Democrat in 2000 or 2004 has voted Republican in either of the last two elections.

2012 election, for comparison:

You can see they're almost identical, just with the Democrats winning the more "moderate" states like Nevada and Ohio. This isn't necessarily indicative of a growing trend toward one party in those states -- more likely it is indicative of the general popularity of the winning candidate. I think it's pretty impressive that Obama carried Virginia in both '08 and '12.