phenom08 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
phenom08 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
phenom08 said:
oniyide said:
you live in your own world as usual, SOny didnt put anywhere near the ads that mS did for Kinect thats not pushing, by that logic. When all those games flop we should just stop blaming companies as not pushing them and sending them out to die. Since that seems to be a popular excuse when a game someone like doenst do well. SOny already stated they made profit off of every Move equipment sold. so fail on your part. No Resort could have been made without it, it just would have sucked cause there would have been crappy accuracy.
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When you can show me an ounce of proof Sony didn't "push it" then you will have an arguement. Until then no, Move failed and Sony tried. If they didn't try it would have not been created. Sony making profit is irrelevant (they have been losing money all gen so good job on making profit on that).
P.S. Since this is offtopic, I wont be replying after this.
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I've never seen an ad for the Sony Eyetoy last gen, and I've only seen a couple ads for the Move. I can truly say I cannot count how many Microsoft ad's I've seen for Modern Warfare, Gears of War, Halo, Kinect or even the Xbox 360. I've seen more Gamestop ads than Sony ads.
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I have seen plenty of Move ads and Sony Eyetoy ads, they push their platforms, its fans just have the most excuses in the world. Everytime Sony makes something that doesn't do well, the excuses fly.
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The move sold decent because of decent marketing. It also failed to try to reel in the casuals as well as the core. I saw move commercials a couple times, not anywhere near as much as Kinect. It alienated the casuals because it promoted only the intuitive movement and not the simpler games as well to give the total package. You're right, they did have commercials, but the level of marketing cannot be compared. Thats like david vs goliath right there.
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It came bundled with Sports Champion, they definitely advertised the "simpler games." I'm sure you know what they were copying when they made Sports Champion, nobody wanted it because they already had a Wii. Sony tried and it didn't work out because it was a shameless ripoff.
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The Move is a hybrid peripheral so I dont understand how they completely ripped off Nintendo. Secondly the Move wands had been in R&D before 2004 and Nintendo had not released ANY details about the Wii at that time.They already had the eyetoy and they knew it was limited and coupled it with the want three years after the original Eyetoy even came out. Of course it see undercurrents of bias in you, so I know your motive regardless of anything I say is to trash it. Anyway, watch this video, of the small amount of marketing the Move got they pretty much alienated casuals and the move became a core draw, because its potential was beyond the Wii and Kinect. The device was marketed more in a focus sense to a more segmented part of the larger market that already existed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sDeD2WeUK0
