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S.T.A.G.E. on 29 October 2012
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There in lies the problem. Your selfish in your thinking. Move may have failed so PS3 is still a primarily core gamers console, but Kinect succeeded where it failed and now we 360 gamers gotta share with casuals. Kinect did push 360 is casual gaming and media navigating, as it enhances the 360 as a media hub, which is what MS wants to do.

I think you are in no position at all to say what Sony thinks is right given their state and their missteps in gaming this gen


Ok. So you're trying to prove a point to me by boasting about Microsoft 1uped Sony by turning their console into a cable box? Sure bro. Sony made a lot of missteps this gen, but navigation isn't one of them. Sure, thats a creative and secondary decision, but its not important. This is called the games industry. The Wii was the highest selling casual device this gen and yet still got the least use behind the 360 and PS3. More people are STILL using Netflix on the PS3 because not only does it have a Blu Ray player but it also doesn't block you from using your subscriptions to Netflix and Hulu. If it is condoned to slow down game production and beef up the secondary aspects of a console and make them primary then the gaming industry is going in a direction that will not benefit gaming and it will continue to get worse. 

Yes, MS seriously 1uped Sony this gen in regards to expanding the audience to casuals while retaining the core fans. For gaming to get out of "the mothers basement" you have to get gaming to a true mass market awareness. Core games will always be a integral part, but now it has evolved to a point where we gotta share with casuals.

It sucks that theres gamers like you that want gaming back in the old days, where games were catered solely to the core.  gaming You either adapt to change or you get left B3hind

"If it is condoned to slow down game production and beef up the secondary aspect"

This isn't Sony......MS actually has money to do both. They have created many studios in the past year, they still get game deals especially with XBLA. They dont make them in house but they are 360 games that PS3 doesnt get. Same result. And Kinect has pushed Xbox into mass market status. Check yourself.


No Microsoft didnt expand anything, Nintendo did that and Microsoft rode on its wave (Remember when Nintendo went casual and Sony and Microsoft expressed pessimism earlier and then Microsoft jumped on the bandwagon? Sony was always on it but their marketing sucked then and it still sucks now). Sony had expanded the Playstation product to casuals two gens before the both of them increasing game use and upgrading the multimedia value. The PS2 and PS1 have still on the one and two spot for highest selling consoles of all time. Literally the only two products that had something for everyone. I don't want to bring games back to the old days, but I also do not want proper games to take a back seat because a company doesn't give two shits about them. Microsoft is investing in games because they have to, but everyone knows they came to the industry because they want to own the living room (and saw Sony gobbling up multimedia marketshare, which is why they went after Apple as well and failed), not just for gaming, but for everything. Sony wants multimedia, but they do NOT want it to trump its truer purpose. 

Microsoft has created many studios, but either they haven't come up with much, are working on Halo and Forza or are focusing on next gen. Sonys teams have been focused on games this gen and beyond. Lets keep this concrete on facts, thats how it IS if you've been paying attention. How many games did Microsoft put out last year that wasnt low budget and for the core? How about this year? How about next year? Exactly, there is no argument about that. Microsoft even admitted that making games is risky and made excuses for low game production when journalists pressed them as to why their production level is so low.

Kinect is a mass market product, but unless they follow Sony and come up with a peripheral device for it (Which I believe they will), it wont push anything pertaining to gaming like the PROMISED AND CAMPAIGNED FOR. Their selling point to be taken seriously was to make real games for the Kinect, unless they go on Sonys path and show Sony how to properly market, this is not happening.