Election time, who did you vote for?

[gergroy]

RenderMonk said:

gergroy said:
@RenderMonk

Look, I have been pretty clear that I don't like either Obama or Romney. Would it make you feel better if I tell you why I dislike Romney as well? I think Romney has been incredibly vague and hard to pin down this entire election cycle. He waffles on issues all the freaking time. I don't see his tax plan as really doing all that much and the fact that he has completely removed the option for revenue increases don't sit very well with me. I dislike how he is always talking about how important paying down the deficit is, but then doesn't say how he will do it.

There are lots of reasons why I dislike Romney, just like there are lots of reasons as to why I dislike Obama. The reason I'm going to vote for Romney has less to do with Romney and more about giving somebody else a shot. Romney does have a pretty good biography and it is possible that he could do a better job. The thing is, I have seen how Obama performed as president, and I didn't like it. So I'm voting for the other guy with a chance of winning. Simple as that.

First off, let me apologize for forgetting to talk about the minimum wage part. There was just some much to adderss about what you said, that I misses that part. And to be fair, I can't remember where I heard it, nor can I find a link to it where that was said. The only quote I have from google search is where Romney said "the best thing to do is to remove minimum wage laws and let individuals decide what they want to charge for their labor." I wish I could remember or find it, but I cannot. But I think from the statement that Romney made, that it's clear what would happen. People would vote to remove minimum wage laws, thinking they would be able to charge whatever they wanted for their labor, but what would actually happen, is no employer would agree to it. And then without a minimum wage law to fall back on, the new to be employee would be screwed. But, since I can't provide any links, I doesn't really matter, so I will conceed that point.

As for the you saying why you would vote for Romeny over Obama, that's basically what I was getting at. To tell me WHY you're voting for him. And not just because "let's give someone else a shot." He's never been president, and has no idea what it will take to do the things the American people need. Obama has been in office, and with another term, would have more opportunity to continue the positive work he's started thus far.

You also mentioned again that the tax on small businesses being one of your concerns...the president adressed that in the debates. Saying that those facts are being distorted by the republicans like all things. That the tax is heaviest on the biggest of the small business owners. So it comes down to defining what small business is. So who do you believe? Romney or the President? After hearing Romney lie over and over again, just to secure the votes, I believe Obama. Who's kept a straight forward message time and time again. When something goes wrong, he takes responsibility for it, he doesn't lie and/or cover it up. (think about the Lybia discussion in the 2nd debate)

My point is, if you're running for President of the United States, you are supposed to get up there and give an account of your beliefes and what you would do as president, so people can make an informed choice. Obama has done that. Romney on the other hand, has changed his position to many times to count! His own party doesn't even know what he believes, how can the american people, or more specifically YOU, for that matter, know what he believes and would do in office?

I would encourage you to try and see both candidates for what they are, and what they are saying. If you still want to vote for Romney, that's your right as a citizen. Just be sure you're voting for him for the right reasons, because you know what stands for, and KNOW who he is/what he will do. His own party doesn't know, I'm glad that you do.

you don't even understand what I'm talking about on the tax issue.  You are talking about their tax plans for small business, I'm talking about Obamacare.  Obamacare is a tax, according to the supreme court.  That tax increases the burden on small businesses by quite a bit, it was the wrong thing to focus on in the middle of an economic downturn and showed poor judgement and poor leadership skills on behalf of the president. 

Like I said, I don't like either of the candidates, but one of them will be president.  Obama has been president, and if he is anything like his first term then I don't want another term of Obama.  So I'm voting against somebody instead of for them, as is my right.  I know the issues, and I know where the candidates stand.  I think they are both crap, and on most issues they are exactly the same.  However, I would rather go with the untested candidate that could surprise and may end up being good instead of the one I know is bad.  You understand?

edit:  You think Obama has been consistent?  Do you want me to lay out all of Obama's waffles as well?  Neither of these candidates has been very consistent.