Which of the big 3 gets the most bashing/hate on VGC?

[Chark]

Player2 said:

Chark said:

Player2 said:

pezus said:

 

I think what is easiest is to look at the way Wikipedia explains it, as someone posted in here already. I don't know where that 14 year old basement shit is coming from, but it needs to go.

Bold: Why? Again, hardcore does not mean "adult". That is not even close to being the same thing

Interesting definition Wikipedia has.

Hardcore gamers (...) tend to play more involved games (...). What is a "more involved game"? Never heard of it in my life. And Google desn't help much either.

Involved is a descriptive word. Used like this it means things that are more diffiicult, story driven, time demanding, complex, high learning curve, games that require dedication to play, games that are not easy to pick up and play that have simple premises and basic gameplay mechanics.

That's a lot of things for a single word. Is Tekken an involved game then? It does have a high learning curve and complex gameplay mechanics, but it isn't story driven and button mashing is enough to beat the single player mode (acknowledged by the TC), therefore it isn't a difficult game and is easy to pick up.

It doesn't have to contain all aspects and even some non hardcore games have some of these as well. Tekken would be concidered a hardcore game. While button mashing does allow someone to pick it up immediately, it only scratches the surface of the games actual gameplay. Fighting games in general are accessible to everyone but learning the moves, engaging competition of more experienced players, and mastering the combat is more of the hardcore territory. The fact people can button mash doesn't deteriorate the total game. It might get you by in some games but it is essentially not learning how to play the game and until the divide is broken between button mashing and actually figuring out a fighter, the gamer isn't engaging in a hardcore gaming activity...neccessarily. It is a difficult labeling of sorts.