gergroy said:
GameOver22 said:
gergroy said:
GameOver22 said:
gergroy said:
Augen said:
klystron said:
Thank you for reminding people of something Obama would like us all to forget... his two years with a supermajority and getting only health care done. He can't blame the Republicans for an "obstructionist" congress when they had no power. In fact, there has not been a budget passed in Obama's presidency. This is a first. So yeah, you can blame the GOP for the last two years... but in the first two years they did nothing, either.
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Just to clarify. Minority still has fillibuster as mechanism to stop legislation, you need 60 seats in the senate all on the same page to force through bills. Minority has not been powerless.
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They had that until ted kennedy died... That is why it is called a super majority...
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The Democrats actually never had a supermajority, unless we're thinking of different elections. The split was 57-41 if you include the independents who caucused with the Dems as Dems.
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2008&f=0&off=3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2008
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No, the 57 to 41 is without including the independents, who are both actually democrats anyway. So dems had 59 to 41, then a couple months after the election arlen spectre of pensylvania switched to democrat, giving democrats a super majority.
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Didn't know about Specter. I'm pretty sure 57-41 includes the independents though. At the beginning of the Congress, Obama's seat was vacant, as was another one because of a special election, so factoring those two in, as well as Spectre would have given them a supermajority.
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See my edit, your numbers dont add up to 100 and i told you why in my edit.
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http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2008&f=0&off=3
Don't know if you checked the link. Scroll down and look (55-41-2) at the beginning of the Congress. I'm not sure, but as I said, I think Obama's empty chair and one from a special election are why it doesn't add up to 100.
Hang on,-better break-down. It was Obama's and Minnesota's seat that were vacant.
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/seats.php?year=2008&off=3&elect=0&f=0
