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Slimebeast on 23 October 2012
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mrstickball said:
Slimebeast said:
mrstickball said:
It'd be nice if the Vegans and vegetarians stopped from trying to force meat-eaters into their dietary preferences.

Some days, I don't eat meat at all. Other days I do. Both things can be delicious, and tasty. However, I'm not going to prevent myself from eating a specific kind of food, just because you get yourself flustered over the issue.

Having said that, I eventually want to raise all of my own meat and butcher it.

But how can you say that (your first sentence), you being a guy I know is anti-abortion and who has put a lot of though into that issue?

Pro-life people try to force pro-choice people into their preference of preserving human life in every form, even in the womb. For them it's not a question of choice and preference, it's a question of ethics. In the same way for the vegetarian it's not a question of choice, it's a question of ethics.

Even our God originally intended humans as well as animals to only live on plants. Only after human sin came into the world did he allow humans to consume animals. It's God's ideal state - no death should exist in his whole creation.

 

 

I've come to the conclusion that I can't force my pro-life views on others. I can, however, do what I can to mitigate the possibilities of them having an abortion. 95% of abortions happen simply because the woman doesn't want the child (as opposed to medicial or incest/rape issues). There was a pilot program in St. Louis that dropped the abortion rate by 80-90% without banning it. So I think there are better ways to solve the issue than to take away freedoms.

Fair enough, but you do have some sympathy for hardcore pro-lifers, don't you? I mean sympathy in the sense that you understand their passion, that if they truly believe abortion is murder, then it stops being a question of choice only, and is necessary to become a question of ethics and laws. And from this follows that it's natural for them to advocate laws to protect the embryo.

I mean, it's not very different compared to a vegetarian activist who will passionately argue and lobby for the protection of animals with the ultimate goal that the well-being and integrity of animals (at least some animals) - and ultimately the right to live - becomes not only the standard norm in people's minds but also protected by our laws.

I happen to be both, I am pro-life and a vegetarian.