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007BondAgent on 22 October 2012
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crissindahouse said:
007BondAgent said:
crissindahouse said:
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recent history has told us that halo and cod is always neck and neck in north america, so something is up because black ops 2 on ps3 should be near halo

yes like i said, black ops looks undertracked.

and what is recent history and "always"? there is only 1 halo game you can maybe compare with cod of the same year and this is reach and even then, both had different releases, cod in holiday season and halo pre-holiday season so even these numbers are not really comparable.

btw i just checked the numbers, in 2010, halo reach had ~1,200,000 preorders 3 weeks before release and the ps3 cod had ~800k preorders 4 weeks before release so there was also an almost 400k gap with same time before release.

 Halo: Reach (X360)
Microsoft, Shooter
3 166,818 1,193,162
Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS3)
Activision, Shooter
4 55,702 816,721

if you have still a theory i would like to hear it.


Halo reach did 2.3m opening week while black ops on ps3 did 2m, plus halo isn't competing with cod, so modern warfare 3 on ps3 did 2.2m on ps3, meaning every cod is improving in north america, plus have you seen how huge cod opens on the 360 in north america? the 360 version of black ops 2 should be a clear 500k ahead.

ok and why did i say to you that halo reach didn't release in holiday season but halo 4 does?

and what exactly does this change when i said cod looks undertracked and not halo overtracked? did i ever say cod won't sell as much as halo or anything? why is this theory not more logical for you?

it's funny, you said cod improved every year, then you see cod preorders here are even lower as in 2010 and instead of you thinking about too low cod preorder numbers you think halo has to be overtracked. that makes 0 sense. everything you said should let you think cod is undertracked.

btw if you think halo is so much overtracked, can you say me what you believe halo 4 will sell first week? reach sold 2.3 million right? preorder numbers of halo 4 are lower as for reach here on vgc and if you think those lower numbers are even overtracked, what do you expect for halo 4 first week? 1.4 million? or mabye even less?

Because halo reach is most likely overtracked, plus halo is either over tracked or black ops on ps360 are undertracked, it's one of them.

Plus halo 4 is lagging behind because maybe call of duty is comming out? in the same month? reach didn't release in the same launch window as black ops so there was no need for choosing, plus it's no lie that call of duty on 360 is much bigger then halo in north america, so there is no way halo and cod are this close.