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fordy said:
Sensei said:

 Without achievements I have no reason to play anything on Wii U.


If achievements are all that you play games for, then you're playing games for all the wrong reasons...

I would ask... whats more important in terms of social value?

Some arbitrary number that shows next to your gamer tag... or your friends online being able to see which games you are playing, how much, how often? Being able to communicate directly to you and others with Social Network (MiiVerse) directly integrated into the Wii U ecosystem and even within the game (a la Demon Souls). Lastly... they do still have support for "achievement" equivalent in the form of "accomplishments"... they are just not requiring all games to have those things. This means that a game design doesn't have to get mucked up to accomodate an achievement or trophy requirement platform holder.

I personally find the type of statistics and recommendations on Wii and 3DS Nintendo Channels / eShop more interesting than either Trophies or Achievements... what the hell does someone else's achievement tell you about the game? That they played it and maybe grinded through something probably not fun... to get some arbitrary digital sticker.

Keep in mind that the achievement "score" doesn't say anything about you except that you play more games... you could just be achievement whoring on Barbie games for that digital pride. I myself like getting the little pop-ops for trophy or acheivement... but I don't worry about grinding through some crappy parts of game to diminish my overall value of the game. I also get no social value of those these... it is purely personal satisfaction.