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HappySqurriel said:
Soundwave said:

Both PS4 and 720 will have SKUs for under $500. Book it.

The 360 started at $299.99/$399.99.

The only reason the PS3 was $500-$600 was because of the Blu-Ray drive, unless Sony is shoe horning a mega expensive disc drive format into their next system again, PS4 won't cost that much.

But performance wise, sure a 6-7x leap over the PS3/360 is easy guys. An AMD 7850 GPU (28nm, small ideal for a console casing) obliterates the 360/PS3 and it's not a mega-expensive GPU either. You can pick one up from a store for $170, obviously the mass-produced price a company like Nintendo/Sony/MS could get that GPU for would be far less to boot. 

The CPU/GPU IMO is actually not what makes these systems expensive. Even Iwata said with regards to the 3DS, the price of the chipset drops very quickly once mass production ramps up. What killed them on the 3DS was probably that 3D screen.

Nintendo would have to accept a system more akin in size to the Western NES though to make this work though. But honestly I never understood the obsession with super tiny consoles anyway. I never thought "gee my NES is taking up too much space". As long as the thing isn't the size of a boat, like the original PS3 was, it's fine (PS2 was an OK size too). 


The Radeon 7850 uses 130 Watts which is similar to the PS3 at launch, and this GPU is still (probably) only 2 to 3 times the performance of what Nintendo has (most likely) included in the Wii U.

Beyond that, when the PS3 launched the dollar and euro were worth (roughly) 50% more compared to the yen than they are today and Sony was in a much better financial position and able to absorb greater losses. A system that (in relative terms) they could have launched for $300 in 2006 will probably have to be sold for closer to $450 in 2013/2014; and a system that (in relative terms) they could have launched for $400 in 2006 will probably have to be sold for closer to $600 in 2013/2014.


Doesn't Nintendo have a fair bit of US currency? It would be pretty silly IMO to keep everything in Japanese yen, especially when Japan plays basically no role in the production of these consoles anymore. The GPUs are designed by American companies and then manufactured in China. 

If not, neither Sony or Nintendo can really compete with MS, who presumably has most of their cash in American dollars. MS could go get the higher end GPUs from AMD without worry of whatever the yen costs. Doesn't really affect them.