hello271 said:
I'll try to refute you, but I apologize if I misconstrue some of your points because frankly, your post was pretty poorly written and hard to understand. Now if I'm reading this correctly, you are claiming a few things: 1. GT is not obviously a bigger series than Halo. You believe this since you are arguing against a post that affirmed that GT is clearly a bigger series than Halo. 2. Upon the release of MSG4, GT5, FXIII, the hardware sales of PS3 will not dramatically spike, causing 10 million sold in a short amount of time. 3. At the time of FFX and GTA3's release, PS2's userbase clearly had more than 20 million users, which is why they sold so many copies, and why FFXIII and GT5 will not sell as many as FFX and GT3 did.
My comments: 1. I think if we were to go by sales, GT is clearly a bigger series than Halo. Looking at the sales GT: 10.85m GT2: 9.37m GT3: 14.87m GT4: 8.87m Average: 10.99m Total: 43.96m
Halo: 6.43m Halo2: 8.45m Halo3: 7.13m Average: 7.34m Total: 22.01
GT as a series as not only sold about twice as many copies as Halo, but on average each game has also sold about 50% more copies.
2. Of course it won't. No one is expecting a huge spike on the day these games releases (at least, I hope). Look at the week GT3 came out. PS2 sales went from 200k to 230k. The week FFX came out, PS2 sales went from 283k to 387k. The HW sale won't magically start doubling or tripling. But what's important is that these games will give the PS3 weekly sales a small bump, for many weeks to come. Did R&C or Uncharted spike PS3 sales when they came out? No. But the PS3 has beat 360 sales WW for 10 weeks in a row, and you can beat part of that is due to those two games.
3. Actually, at the release of GT3, there were 9.1 million PS2's sold. At the release of FFX, there were 11.7 million PS2's sold. They didn't sell truckloads because of a huge PS2 userbase. PS2 gained a huge userbase because of these games. You seem smart. I'm sure you can figure out the proper analogy with GT5, FXIII and the PS3. |
to be fair, funkrusher did retract his statment regard halo as being more appealing to a larger demographic than gt or ff. the error in his logic is stating that to reach the average sales of these series/titles, the entire ps3 user base would have to purchase a copy. we should remeber that we are talking about life time sales. and these figures didnt comeabout overnight. ff and gt reached such sales through out the ps2's lifetime. i'm guessing that these titles are still selling some even to date as the ps2 is still alive and kicking.
as hello271 stated, once gt5 and ffxiii comes out, these games would help boost ps3 sales on a weekly basis. the sales may not suddenly go up to the millions, but these games will help the ps3 sell more increaseing its user base. (i should think this is true since i am one of those waiting for ffxiii and gt5 to come out, i'll probably be buying a ps3 sometime during the 2nd half of this year in anticipation of these two titles :P)