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Scoobes said:

What other loss products though?

Don't feed the trolls. MS even stated (I think a year ago) that all parts of ED were profitable at that time. In any case, there is/was the hugely profitable Devices section in ED, the hugely profitable Mac and software section, even the surface part was profitable. Also note that over $1.5b RROD losses were not accounted to the ED division. And the huge $$ that went into marketing Kinect and other stuff - not accounted to ED. If everything would have been accounted to ED, that division would be very seriously in debt.