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FunKrusher said:
Auron said:
Omac said:
darthdevidem01 said:
@Funkrusher

HALO 3 appeals to a WIDER Demographic than GT5 & FFXIII

WHAT BS!

GT series has never sold below 9 million (peaking at 15 million) & FF never below 5 million (peaking at 10 million)

It's quite obvious GT as a series is bigger than Halo...now

You smoking crack?


 And you are too big of a Halo fanboy to realise that he is right.  Numbers don't lie, back under your bridge troll.


I love when you say something and someone calls you a fanboy not knowing anything about you or your background.  Hey genuis' I don't even like HALO. I'm into COD4 though if you must know. So there's something you just learned about me.  See the problem with the internet is you try and being insulting or funny. And sure it may come off as funny or insulting to you or your e-flunky followers. But an insult without claim or merit to back it isn't at insult it's just ignorance.  There you go you just learned something else. I'm giving out gold stars if you can apply and use this knowledge correctly next time.

 But back to the matter on hand it was ignorant on my part to put that up there with out checking actual numbers and sales data, and doing all that cool internet tech savy you guys do.  My bad. I will infact retract that statement.  But assuming you read (because it's apparent you didn't comprehend what was written). I was saying that these franchise WILL NOT CAUSE A HUGE SPIKE IN SALES FOR THE PS3 TO MAKE IT CATIPULT FROM 7million to 17MILLION SYSTEMS SOLD UPON THEIR RELEASE.

I put it in bold for you. Take some time read it and digest it.  And I stand buy that. The numbers you guys listed were on a system that had what? Over 100million users as a fanbase? Okay maybe not that much over their first releases but the Ps2 at the time of FFX-XII and MGS3 and GTA3-4 clearly had more than 20 million users.So let's apply those numbers here? Are those the current Sales-TO-Life date?  Cool let's use them to help me make my point.  if I'm looking at the numbers for those past games. And looking at the install numbers for the Ps3 NOW (in bold again for the comprehensively challenged).  That means in order for any of those games on their release to sell those numbers  EVERYONE (in bold again) who owns a Ps3 will be buying those games.Now sure that can happen? But the probability of it happening? You do the math.So I've spelled it out for you. I could make a witty comment about you guys being too much of Ps3 fanboys to have read and comprehended this or my previous post.  But I'll let what I just posted speak for itself.Go ahead refute that.  And please feel free to ad more nonsensical witty, attempt at hurting e-feelings comments.  I need a few more laughs.  Time is yours.

I'll try to refute you, but I apologize if I misconstrue some of your points because frankly, your post was pretty poorly written and hard to understand.

Now if I'm reading this correctly, you are claiming a few things:

1. GT is not obviously a bigger series than Halo. You believe this since you are arguing against a post that affirmed that GT is clearly a bigger series than Halo. 

2. Upon the release of MSG4, GT5, FXIII, the hardware sales of PS3 will not dramatically spike, causing 10 million sold in a short amount of time.

3. At the time of FFX and GTA3's release, PS2's userbase clearly had more than 20 million users, which is why they sold so many copies, and why FFXIII and GT5 will not sell as many as FFX and GT3 did. 

 

My comments:

1. I think if we were to go by sales, GT is clearly a bigger series than Halo. Looking at the sales

GT: 10.85m

GT2: 9.37m

GT3:  14.87m

GT4:  8.87m

Average:  10.99m

Total: 43.96m

 

Halo:  6.43m

Halo2: 8.45m

Halo3: 7.13m

Average: 7.34m

Total: 22.01 

 

GT as a series as not only sold about twice as many copies as Halo, but on average each game has also sold about 50% more copies. 

 

2. Of course it won't. No one is expecting a huge spike on the day these games releases (at least, I hope). Look at the week GT3 came out. PS2 sales went from 200k to 230k. The week FFX came out, PS2 sales went from 283k to 387k. The HW sale won't magically start doubling or tripling. But what's important is that these games will give the PS3 weekly sales a small bump, for many weeks to come. Did R&C or Uncharted spike PS3 sales when they came out? No. But the PS3 has beat 360 sales WW for 10 weeks in a row, and you can beat part of that is due to those two games.

 

3. Actually, at the release of GT3, there were 9.1 million PS2's sold. At the release of FFX, there were 11.7 million PS2's sold. They didn't sell truckloads because of a huge PS2 userbase. PS2 gained a huge userbase because of these games. You seem smart. I'm sure you can figure out the proper analogy with GT5, FXIII and the PS3.