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Barozi said:
Michael-5 said:

Well........ Did it really almost kill gaming for you, or change your gaming habits? I agree with you, many of the marketing ploys and gaming directions games went this gen really sucked, but for me at least it made me a better gamer for the most part. Here is somthing to consider.

DLC

-Ruins most games, but improves some drastically. Like you said, map packs ruin gaming, especially since often times really easy trophy's/achievements are linked to them, and they rarely go on sale. My biggest grip is Forza releasing a 9 car pack every month for $9. That's a dollar a car! You get 500 Cars with the purchase of the game, and post game you're expected to pay $1 per car? What's worse is often times the best cars are reserved for limited edition buyers. However on the same note, FallOut 3 GOTY Edition and NV Ultimate Edition are excellent games. Sure they might not be 80 hour JRPG's like you remember (Really, most JRPG's are 30 hours, not 80.....), but it took me 40 hours to complete all of FallOut 3, and I expect NV to be better. Elder Scrolls is also the same, it took me about 80 hours to fully finish Oblivion, and I don't even want to touch games like Dragon Age and Skyrim due to their length.

How does DLC ruin games ?
Why do you feel the need to buy more cars with DLC when the game already ships with 500 ? (Though as far as I recall it was closer to 400)
So even if developers of fighting games hid a character on the disc that should be in the game. How does such a tiny piece of content ruin a game ?

 

Also how did you complete Fallout 3 and all it's DLC in 40 hours ? Did you only finish the main quests with the occasional side quest here in there ? I got 1500G in it and it took me 80 hours and there weren't any grinding achievements involved either.

I don't feel I need to buy more cars, but when new cars are available, I would like to use them in game. $1 per car (if you buy a pack of 9, $3-$5 per car otherwise) is a rip off. I mean I really want to race in a Scion FR-S among other cars, do I really have to pay $3 to race in one car? I only want to test it out, maybe drive in it for 20 minutes total.

P.S. Forza 3 shipped with 400, Forza 5 shipped with 500, I think. Both have about 100 DLC cars now.

For hiding content, that content should have been a part of the original game, forcing people to pay extra for that content is effectively increasing the price of the game.

Also those aren't my two biggest gripes about DLC. I'm a huge FallOut and Mass Effect fan and because of DLC I am forced to wait another year to buy Fallout GOTY/Ultimate with all the DLC included. Without DLC the game is okay length, but you know what DLC is basically just as long as the game. I don't want to spend $140 on a 40 hour game. With Mass Effect, since their is no GOTY ed, I buy the DLC as it releases, and this sucks for 2 reasons. a) it makes the game expensive and b) it forces me to play a second run of the game just to activate the DLC chapters.

As for FallOut 3, how did it take you 80 hours? I took my time and got 1500/1500 in actually a little under 40 hours. My XBL is Pay4NameChange, you can see my achievement history if you need confirmation. The core game took me about 15 hours, which was also the average on most reviews and each DLC took me about 3-4 hours. Then add in 5 hours for non achievment quests and stuff and....40 hours.

Oblivion took me 80 though.....wow that game is long.



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