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KungKras said:
sperrico87 said:

A. When I was in the womb, I was only a hypothetical person. There were so such thing as 'me' until my conciousness got going. There is no point in comparing imaginary people to real people. Every sperm that is lost when people masturbate could have been a human, do you feel bad for them (or are you one of the three guys that doesn't masturbate?) How about when couples freeze fertilized eggs for later use but ends up not using them?

B. You're comparing hypothetical people to real people here. Once they cease to be hypothetical, they become invaluable. But while they are still hypothetical, they are not.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get across with your final point. When women have the option to have abortions, it leads to children being born in more planned, and more thought through circumstances, and thus with a better chance of a happy life.

Again, are you assuming I exist in that question (conciousness) or are you talking about me being a hypothetical person.

I'll counter with a question. Isn't not aborting an accidental/severely handikapped child the same as killing your future planned, healthy baby, in favour of another with less chance of a good life?

I think difference here is that when you say "When women have the option to have abortions, it leads to children being born in more planned, thought-through circumstances", my one and only thought is: You have no business having sexual intercourse if you're too young or immature to handle what naturally results from intercourse...i.e.: procreation.  The whole reason sex exists in the first place.

And a sperm is not a life, a sperm in a fertizilized egg is a life.  Once that process has begun taking place, it is something that should not be interfered with or disturbed.  From that point on you must let nature take it's course.

If a woman is pregnant, beyond a reasonable doubt...from that point on, you have a responsibility to see it through and take care of it.