What Causes Homosexuality?

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Jay520 said:

forevercloud3000 said:

Outward stimuli also can influence our eating habits but It will never go dictate our genetic desire to eat when hungry. I've learned that someone's sexual preference is a constant, never seems to change. If it directly be dictated by outward forces people could actually be "Ex-Gay". But all of my study has proven that apparently once you go gay(at whatever degree they are), you never go back...and I can't believe something that isn't genetic yet influenced would be that way. This is not to be confused with someone's actual level of sexual preference of being more bisexual in nature and going back and forth between the two. That is not quitting gaydom and becoming straight, that is you like both and freely choose between the two. To believe otherwise is to say with enough conditioning therapy one can be switched to either or and I don't believe that is true for me or anyone else.

The fact that 2 kids born in the same home, raised the same way and still one is hetero, the other homo. Or the fact that some areas of the world are so blatantly hostile to gays that they are threatened with tortures and death such as anal gluing(they inject a paste up the anus that hardens and makes it impossible to deficate without tearing your anus inside out which leads to a slow and excruciating death) yet STILL homosexuality prevails as a supposed "sub/con choice". If anything that would force someone to subconsciously surpress those feelings. Yet sexual desires are almost uncontrollable in that aspect. We like what we like sexually(as far as him or her) and that never seems to change.

Pretty much agree with everything except these two paragraphs. For the first paragraph: If something is the result of what you learned, that doesn't imply that it would be constantly changing (or even changeable) as you learn new things. For example, one perspective of psychology states that the bulk our personalities are pretty much set at around age 5-6. So while we can learn new behavior, our subconscious is essentially already developed. For the record, I do believe that with sufficient therapy, the mind can be conditioned to some pretty bizarre and dramatic changes; the mind is a lot more controllable and powerful than many may think. But this is more based on my own experience and is just a personal belief.

And as for the second paragraph: We can only assume parts of their environmental are equal (equal home, region, family, etc). However, they're sense of self could be vastly different. For example, one could be more outgoing and one more shy. One could be more favored in the family than another. One couls develop different social groups than the other. In essence its quite possible that these kids develop vastly different mindsets and different positions in their social groups. The implications of these seemingly minor discrepancies can have a profound effect on something like sexual preference.

Ok I will give you those. The mind is the last frontier and full of possibilities. It is not completely uncommon for human's to alter genetic ability when faced with an obstacle. For instance...level of sensory will dramatically highten when one of the senses(usually sight) is gone.

There are also theories that homosexuality could be a byproduct of the two  brain hemespheres not completely seperating. All kinds of strange things happen when this occurs such as some people gain the ability to see sound, or taste sight/colors, or people seeing upside down.

Since you believe it is Environmental factors, what kind? Mind you, these supposed environmental factors have to be indigenous to all over the world.