Who won the debate? Biden or Ryan?

[NightDragon83]

Max King of the Wild said:

theprof00 said:
Everyone just says "both sucked". What is a good debate then?
In two elections on vgc, I have not seen one debate called "good"

I just didn't like this environment... more discussion style less debate style.

Yeah that put me off too, at times it felt like a typical Sunday morning political talk show with both guys talking over each other instead of an actual debate that features both candidates behind podiums on the stage.  The moderator did a decent job overall, but at times she was almost like a third commentator or host like you see in the aformentioned political talkshows.