Mr Khan said:
chocoloco said:
JWeinCom said:
Oh my gosh people here are stupid. Do you think EA is really devoting time, money, and manpower to porting a game that they want to fail? Why in the world would they do that? They definitely don't like losing money.
The Mass Effect Trilogy that's coming out could very well be a decision that was made AFTER Mass Effect 3 Wii U began. We don't have a solid release date for the PS3 version of Mass Effect, so it's quite possible work on that port started recently, after licensing issues were resolved with Microsoft.
EA is porting Mass Effect to the Wii U, because they want to make it a juggernaut franchise, and they need it to be as visible as possible to as many audiences as possible. They're hoping that gamers who don't own a 360 or a PS3 have heard of the franchise and will buy it for the Wii U. It's as simple as that.
Is Mass Effect 3 for the Wii U a poor and misguided idea? Yes. Is this an intentional plan by EA to waste their time, money, and resources? No, that would be stupid. Is it an effort to not develop on the Wii U? No, EA isn't going to turn down a potential revenue source, and if they don't think the Wii U is viable, they could simply not develop for it. No zany scheme is required.
Sometimes a stupid move is just a stupid move with no wacky explanation behind it. Use your heads people.
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Do not try to give reason to the many Nintendo conspiracy theorists on here, many have tried, all have failed, others lost limbs and many are now dead.
"Looking at it as a single incident, the "conspiracy theories" don't make much sense. But there is a recurring pattern with EA games on Nintendo platforms (at least since a certain point of the Wii's existence), and this is just the latest example.
I agree, this probably isn't about spite, but those of you who are laughing at any theory that EA could be sabotaging its Nintendo games on purpose are very, very naive. This isn't a game, and in the business world, people don't get to where they are at this level by being nice.
1. This is a huge company in a multi-billion business.
2. People are murdered daily for much smaller sums than what is at stakes here. Not that this is what is happening here at all, haha, just illustrating how serious the amounts at stake are and how much further than just "absurd" sabotage some people would go for far lesser amounts.
3. EA might possibly have some prior agreements or obligations towards Nintendo, from the time they were "buddies" in E3 2011, that it can't just ignore (without ramifications) by not publishing any game on the WiiU.
4. EA have their stake holders that need appeasing, surely some (many?) of whom might think EA would be losing money by not investing in core games on the WiiU initially
5. A million dollars or so is pocket change for EA, no matter how you look at it, especially if they think it will save them a lot more money down the road.
Now suppose that Peter Moore and/or a sizable faction at EA thinks that EA is better off not investing in core games on the WiiU at all, and that it will lose a lot of money and resources if it invested in the WiiU.
Now suppose there is a large group of share holders who don't think the same way. Unlikely? I wouldn't think so at all (just look at all the share holders clamoring for Nintendo to publish their games on IOS, and that is REALLY stupid).
So on the one hand: EA, by spending pocket change, brings a "prestigious quality game" to the WiiU so they can't be blamed for the quality of the game nor the quality of the port itself (thus shutting up shareholders and possibly Nintendo if there were some prior obligations), and so EA will be able to say "we tried"
And on the other hand, EA goes the extra mile to make sure it fails commercially.
End result: shareholders shut up, Nintendo (if there were prior obligations) can't say anything (though internally they will realize they have been given the shaft), and EA can go ahead without core game investment in the WiiU which they think will be a waste. And all it cost them was pocket change.
If you think shareholders are all smart and would see through something like that, think again. All EA needed to completely shut up any investor push for core games on the Wii was Dead Space Extraction's initial NPD month sales of 9000
I am not saying it is a fact that this is what happened, just that in this world something like this is very possible (and the recurring pattern makes it even more likely)."
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Just making sure you read this. There's more evidence for than against here.
The only way to disprove it is if EA's delay of ME3U is actually them switching to the Trilogy version. Otherwise, this is deliberate self-sabotage.
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1. Ok.
2. People would kill people to make money. Not to lose money.
3. You do realize that the Origin Wii U rumor has never been confirmed?
4. So, tell the stockholders that you don't think it's the right platform for their games. That's what Nintendo does when people ask them to produce mobile games. Shareholders don't really make decisions like that, and I'm not sure there is a huge clamoring for Wii U games.
5. A million dollars is not something EA would throw away casually on a halfbaked anti Wii U scheme. Big companies like this tend to be very focussed on NOT losing money. I'm not sure where you got a million dollars (could be more could be less), but that's only part of the cost. There is also a little thing called opportunity cost. EA is devoting resources and employees to this project. What game are they not developing because they are developing this one?
Plus, EA is releasing several other games for the Wii U. They're doing Madden, they're doing Fifa, they're doing Medal of Honor, and Need for Speed is practically confirmed for the console. How many times do they need to prove their point to investors? Do they want Medal of Honor to fail too? Need for speed? That's a lot of wasted time and effort for a console they don't want to bring games to.
Oh, and Dead Space Extraction was a generally well received game. It sold poorly, but most people who played it really seemed to enjoy it, and at the very least it had great graphics. Sometimes you release games and they flop despite your best wishes. Just ask Red Steel 2.
@Mr Kahn- By evidence do you mean random speculation? Because that's all there was in that post.
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Madden 13 uses the Madden 12 engine. The Vita version does too, because they were developed by the same team. Madden ports to new consoles always lack features. Besides, now EA is producing yet another game they want to fail? Boy they're really going out of their way for this.
