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Sal.Paradise said:
HappySqurriel said:
Sal.Paradise said:

Oh please, what rubbish, how on earth does a screenshot of a 360 game refute him saying that the Wii U will be   "Maybe 20% more efficient, and graphically indistinguishable from the other consoles." ???

This is pathetic! I've called you out on making up information and you're doing your very best to wriggle out of it!

You're now saying I'm unwilling to talk about stuff you brought up a few posts ago, guess what, because I called you out on MADE UP information about Pikmin 3 and Kameo's development that you DIDNT back up, and I REFUSED to argue any further with you until you provided a source, WHICH YOU DIDNT.  

 


Show one concrete statement I made that you can demonstrate is false

1) I cherry-picked an image to make the point that you shouldn't look at cross-platform launch games as being representative on anything.

2) I made some speculative comments that I doubt anyone (with reading comprehension above a 6th grade level) thought were meant to be taken as hard facts.

 

Now, since you wanted facts, this is what Miyamoto said at E3 2011:

"We really did want to release Pikmin this year in honor of [the series' 10-year] celebration," Miyamoto told the crowd. "Earlier, someone asked if we're working on any other Wii games after Skyward Sword. Well, Pikmin was a Wii game we were working on.

"However, as we've been working on Wii U hardware and I've been looking at those high-definition graphics and that beautiful controller, i've been getting the feeling i wanted to see Pikmin there instead."

Sounds like it was far along in development for the Wii U ...

HAHA WHAT. That I can demonstrate is FALSE?

You made claims about both Kameo's and Pikmin 3's development, that YOU couldn't back up, to support YOUR argument. It is on YOU to prove they are CORRECT, with SOURCES.

Your words:  The two launch games for the XBox 360 that looked better than XBox games were Kameo and Perfect Dark, two games that began development before the XBox was released and were nearly completed before they were switched development to the XBox 360. The last 18 months of development of these games was primarily on improving their visuals.

And in regards to Kameo and Pikmin: 18 to 24 months to improve visuals of a nearly completed game will typically result in a better looking game than 12 to 18 months to develop a game from scratch from the ground up ...

I called you out on that BS, and these past few pages have just been you trying to wriggle out of it. Infantile! 

Again:  I called you out on MADE UP information about Pikmin 3 and Kameo's development that you DIDNT back up, and I REFUSED to argue any further with you until you provided a source, WHICH YOU DIDNT.  

End of.

Capiche.

You screwed up, you fabricated information. I called you out on it. 

Now deal with it. 


 

 

You're not familiar with the concept of speculation are you? A vague speculative statement is not a fact.

I made vague speculative statements about the development status and durration of Kameo and Pikmin which are roughly supported by the few facts that are known. They are not meant to be taken as strict facts themselves, and only a fool would do so.

You have not demonstrated that the statements I made were wrong beyond a level that would be considered acceptable given the unknown nature of the development practices of private companies.

 

 

Edit:

American Heritage Dictionary

spec·u·la·tion

1) Contemplation or consideration of a subject; meditation.
2) A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture.
3) Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition.

con·jec·ture
1) An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
2) Form an opinion or supposition about (something) on the basis of incomplete information.