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Sal.Paradise on 22 September 2012
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HappySqurriel said:
Sal.Paradise said:

Ok, so you DONT have sources and were bullshitting? 

Remember, the basis tot his argument is that you originally said: 

The two launch games for the XBox 360 that looked better than XBox games were Kameo and Perfect Dark, two games that began development before the XBox was released and were nearly completed before they were switched development to the XBox 360. The last 18 months of development of these games was primarily on improving their visuals.

 

As to why Kameo looked so good, and Wii U launch titles aren't showing the same generational lep.

So you were just lying about Kameo? 

Any answer to this? No? 

 

So are you claiming that Kameo and Perfect Dark did not begin development on the Gamecube as launch games?

Because that is a fact

Are you claiming that at E3 2004 Kameo wasn't demonstrated as a nearly complete game expected to be released at the end of 2004/beginning of 2005 and was then transferred to the XBox 360?

Because that is a fact

 

No, I didn't deny any of those things. You however, did not say that. You made up details about their development to suuport your argument. 

Happysquirrel...I'm afraid I called you out on your made up arguments and now you're trying to change the argument to stuff about Wonderful 101 and Mario games. No.

Clearly now:

1. You posted a screenshot that was unrepresentative of xbox 360 games at launch and tried to pass it off as if all 360 launch games looked that bad.

2. I reminded you of Kameo, a very good looking 360 launch game, that clearly shows your cherry pick shoddy looking GUN (?) screenshot is not representative of how good a 360 launch title looked. 

3. You then made the claim: The two launch games for the XBox 360 that looked better than XBox games were Kameo and Perfect Dark, two games that began development before the XBox was released and were nearly completed before they were switched development to the XBox 360. The last 18 months of development of these games was primarily on improving their visuals.

Information to which you have no source. 

4. When asked about Kameo vs Pikmin, you said:

18 to 24 months to improve visuals of a nearly completed game will typically result in a better looking game than 12 to 18 months to develop a game from scratch from the ground up ...

Information to which you have no source. 

I then asked you for sources and you didn't provide them, and are now posting screenshots of other games and trying to divert the conversation.

Sorry, I don't argue with people that make up things. Quit trying to paint it as anything else. Please use proper sources/arguments next time, thank you.