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askel50 said:

RAM is x3 (only x2 is usable) and basically that is the only thing they said (because all the rest is roughly the same). This will be clear when the console releases, but you can already extrapolate from the power consumption and from the fact that they were "totally" unable to "show" anything on screen that looked better of something that we already saw on older machines. Let alone the were unable to match the top graphic on those machines.

This isn't common when a powerful machine come out (powerful 2x,3x like some of you say). Xbox 360 had game on launch like perfect dark, it had oblivion few month after launch and gears of war in the first year. PS3 had resistance. Those games clearly made the gap in tech apparent.

Surely, like always, there were sub par games at beginning of the cycle But there were also games that marked clearly the differences from previous generation. This is absent form wiiU scene, and that is because the wiiU is NOT a new generation form hardware perspective.

Bull.

RAM is 4x. Not even counting that there is probably a more advanced (faster) type of RAM. Next, the WiiU GPU whipes the floor with with PS360, it is not 'roughly' the same. They aren't 'unable' to show anything that looks better. People have forgotten E32011, the garden demo and Zelda demo showed definate leaps over the last Gen. And those were made on older devkits.

The only reason people think WiiU won't be more powerful is for now we've only seen direct ports from PS360 games. This is the same with the start of every generation, which has been said countless times now (with the exception of the 5th, when the jump to 3D was made). The fact that the developers of Black Ops 2 of all things apparently actually made some effort to give the game a much higher resolution just for the hell of it, should be enough evidence already.

You think the WiiU is sweating when running Batman Arkham City or Assassin's Creed 3?

It's definitely 4x more powerful than the outdated HDtwins.

Will the PS4/neXtBOX be even more powerful? Most likely, but those who think their launch games will instantly look like those fabled Pixar graphics, must really get a reality check.