Nintendo's gamer strategy and why they could take it all this next gen

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Michael-5 said:

MaxwellGT2000 said:

Michael-5 said:

 

I don't know if PS4 sales and NExtBox sales will be smaller then PS3 and 360 sales respectively. The gaming industry is growing. If you combine Wii/PS3/360 sales this gen you're going to be looking at over 250 million consoles sold. Last gen it was under 200 million, and the gen before that was about 150 million. However if PS4/NextBox sales don't grow over PS360 sales, and Wii U sales grow (stronger software support means prolonged hardware sales, just like the PS2) then Nintendo will have a larger share and do better.

Also how many Japanese developer fans are there outside of Japan? Japanese console games never sell well, Lost Odyssey and XenoBlade didn't even break 1 million despite being two of the best RPG's this gen, but games like Mass Effect, FallOut and Elder Scrolls sell in excess of 3 million on the 360 alone. Also games like Vanquish, Bayonetta, and Catherine just don't do that well either.

However if Wii U can get a good 3rd party support backing, and somehow convince CoD fans to switch over...then this could steal the non loyal fans of MS and Sony, just like PS1 did to SNES.

Well I have a theory behind that growth, part of it is the mainsteam demographic, the other part is a combination of owners who own multiple consoles because of various reasons, failures being a big issue, other being people who own PS3/Wii or 360/Wii cause it rounds out the game library, if the Wii U fulfills the needs of both demographics it cuts out the need for a second console for example, so we might see console sales go down, but it's not actually reflecting the number of gamers out there.

On the other hand bringing more mainstream casual gamers into the core fold means they could invest in other consoles because they want to get more into the hobby.  So I see the industry maybe even growing but I don't see console hardware going up per se, though I respect the view that it really could.

Maybe, but if that's true, then next gen even more people will own multiple consoles. After all if PS3/Wii or 360/Wii rounds the library better then PS2/GCN or PS2/XB, then..... However PS1/N64 had a pretty complete library, no one cared for Sega.

I Don't think Wii U will eliminate the need for a second console because just like the Wii - PS360 and the GCN/XB - PS2 and the PS1 - N64 before it, the Wii U is looking to be a lot different then the PS4 (which looks to be more traditional) and the NextBox. Not everyone is going to want two screens, I mean look at DS vs. PSP, PSP still sold decently well and has its own unique share of games.

Going with the PSP analogy, PSP had a real cut of the Japanese developers due to Monster Hunter creating a strong base in Japan, this kept gamers like me interested in PSP cause we love Monster Hunter and PSP got a few Japanese games DS didn't because of the drastic difference in hardware power.  That's what kept that system selling... that and free games and being the best emulator machine in the market lol Vita lacks that appeal.

Wii U and 3DS are poised however to take Japan flat out, which is a shame for competition but like I brought up there are those Japanese game fans in the west that might be forced into getting a Wii U as a result instead of going PS3/Wii like this gen.  But what I mean by possibly no need for a second console, cause if it's traditional controls you want, Wii U offers that, if it's motion controls, Wii U offers that, if you want to use your old controllers on Wii U? They got you covered, just like Black Ops 2 plays on Wii U with all the set ups so could PS4 multiplats that are traditional, thus it makes the need for a PS4 go down.  Which is the point of my thread, if this console holds the traditional and the casual gamers, why go for one that only offers traditional?  If they go for both markets too what sets the PS4 apart from the Wii U?