AMD Sea Islands aka 8000 series GPUs will be featured in next generation consoles

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Kynes said:

KBG29 said:

Lafiel said:

darkknightkryta said:
Why are people saying 180 watts for the GPU would be too much? The PS3 had a power supply of 380 watts when it launched. There's plenty of overhead for other components.

the consumer acceptance for the size/weight of the first PS3 model was very low - a device that consumes even more power (1st gen PS3 max consumption was ~200W) has to be even bigger and heavier to accomodate for the cooling system it needs

additionally the heavier/bigger sth is the higher are it's transport costs

I think it's safe to say both MS and Sony won't make a console that's bigger than the PS3, so a 180w GPU is out of the question

I have never understood the reason why consoles have to be small. It makes since to have smaller options over time for many reasons, but why at launch? Why does it matter how big something is when it is just going to sit under your TV? I understand the days when consoles were an accersoy item, but now it is nearly the only device you need connected to your TV.

I hope either Sony or MS come out with a very high power system, and leaves size out of the equation. Times have changed, and it is time game devices become fully respectable A/V units.

Bigger consoles means much costlier shipping and warehousing, so there are economic incentives to make small and light consoles.

That is true, but I just don't see why it has to be that way from day one. To me, it makes no sense to have only one form factor for a console. Like I said, when consoles were something people put away and pulled out to play, this was a great model. Now, however, consoles have become a solid fixtures under the TV. 

I think for the first year there is no issue with a large sized box. Then like every other device now days, it could be shrunk on a yearly bases. But, instead of discontinuing the previous fourm factor, why not keep it available. DVD, and Blu-ray players come in all different forms, at many price points. I don't see why this could not be the same with consoles. Basically instead of the console being its own entity within Sony, Playstation would be a platform. Then you could have low end, and high end PS4 components, or even TV's with PS4 chips in them. 

I just feel that new things have to be done by the platform holders if they want to stay relivent. Right now it is getting harder and harder to be different. Almost any company could make a device that played third party games, and meet or beat MS and Sony on price. Right now I think MS has a good thing going with Kinect, but Sony really has nothing setting them apart. With them being a HW company first, I think the best thing they could do is focus on that. The best avenue I see is expanding Playstation certified devices, and allowing other companies to support the platform (like 3do, but with support). This route would make more powerful hardware a  much more viable option.