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pezus said:
Kenology said:
pezus said:
Kenology said:
I'm going to mention this in this thread too, just so everyone can see it.

If PS4/720 isn't the quantum leap over current gen that everyone expects and it's a less significant jump up, sort of like what we're seeing with Wii U's first gen games, I'm wondering if these guys will start changing their tune and start singing Sony/MS's praises and suddenly marginal steps are ok.

We'll see. Can't wait to see how big of a leap those consoles will be and how fans react after knocking the Wii U. I anticipate hypocrisy if it plays out like that.

Why in the world would the leap be marginal? Why even release new consoles then? Sony and MS don't make consoles around new control schemes like Nintendo have been doing lately. Well MS might

We already had this discussion in another thread.

The cost of a monumental leap that you guys might be expecting just doesn't make sense from an economic standpoint.  Sure, if Sony wants to release another $599.99, cutting-edge box with even higher entry dev costs, they can go right ahead...  I don't think they can go too crazy with their usual razor and blades strategy - even though you're rich pezus and would be able to afford it, you can't support Sony all by yourself!  My guess is that the PS4 & 360 won't be the quantum leap you all are expecting, and when you guys find that out, suddenly marginal leaps won't be such a bad thing like it is with the Wii U.  :)

But like I and others said in that other thread, there's no need for a $599 PS4 for the leap to be substantial. 

1. No expensive blu-ray drive this time around

2. It's coming at least 7 years after PS3 came out (8 years for 720 vs. 360). As a comparison, PS3 came 6 years after the PS2 and 360 came ~4 years after Xbox. People tend to forget this point.

3. Do you know how much tech has advanced in these years? 

I'm not a technophile to that extent, so I don't oogle over new engines and the like if that's what you mean.

But a quantum leap would still be an expensive box, with or without a Blu-Ray drive. But it doesn't matter.  No way we can continue this convo until we know what MS and Sony are doing.  So we'll revisit this conversation again in the near future.