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For fuck sake I lost my ability to edit, and quote. Buttons don't work.

Anyway richardhutnik well like I said there is no such thing as a hardcore game. Only these elitists or core gamer call them hardcore. Hell Tetris is as casual as it can get, but the hardest of the core play it like crazy scoring like 2 400 lines in one session. Thats who you make a game like Tetris hardcore

Yeah it is important to seperate them but they'll always be mixed in with the rest. An elitist will call any hardcore gamer of videogame chess casual because VG chess doesn't fall into their perception of "cool" a.k.a. "hardcore."