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naruball said:
fillet said:
 


1. Xbox 360 has a 4GB version, not 5GB. How ignorant.

2. GT5 install is basically mandatory for smooth experience.

3. Most PS3 games when installed load at a similar speed to Xbox 360 games that aren't installed. When you install a game on an Xbox 360, it generally loads much faster than when not installed.

4. At least 2GB of the 12GB will be put aside for caching, so useable will be about 10GB, give or take a few hundred MB.

5. It's not about different tastes or needs. It's that the PS3 has MANDATORY installs and the ones that are optional are generally considered MANDATORY to achive a decent loading time. The Xbox 360 doesn't have MANDATORY installs - EVER. When you install and Xbox 360 game, it is a bonus speed up in loading. It's base loading speed is very close  or better to PS3 games when they are installed. There are a sprinkling of games with long loading times where an install is considered mandatory IMO but we are talking 3-4 maximum and installing them even then doesn't "fix" those games into loading super fast but helps.

6. Sorry for repeating myself a little in 5. but you don't seem to understand.

7. Capish?

1. I know, I know. There's a special place in hell for ignorant fools like me who don't know that. You're clearly not overreacting at all.

2. Out of the 66.3m ps3 sold, not even 10m have bought GT5 or maybe even plan to. It clearly doesn't affect everyone.

3. Never said that wasn't the case

4. See above

5. It is about different tastes. If someone buys a ps3 ONLY for Fifa/Cod (because of free online), he doesn't need more space. Most of my friends who own a ps3 are casual players and only buy FIFA  every year. They have 120 gb disks and don't use any of the disk space for anything apart from the 2gb you mentioned (I haven't played either one and don't know if they have mandatory installs, but even if they do, if they only install those too, they're fine). Different tastes, different models. Is the 360 a better system? Maybe. That's irrelevant. The only reason I brought up the 4gb model is to show that some people simply don't need more space. Someone could say, how are you supposed to download a few live arcades if there's not enough disk space. Well, if you're not a casual gamer, get a different model.

We still don't know if the new model is better than the previous slim. It might be quiter, have less loading times, consume less energy. Who knows? Maybe it's worse. Plus you can't compare the official price with the existing deals at stores. It's like comparing Black Friday deals to deals from the rest of the year.

6. Hope you understand this time

7. Capish? (see how silly this sounds?)

So people who buy a PS3 for FIFA or COD only are fine, but the rest of people who don't (including 10 million owners of GT5 by your own words) are going to have to keep deleting then waiting 5-10 mins for a game to install each time they want to play one assuming they have more than 4 games.

I'm not getting into a tit for tat with you, it's blatently clear that there's a problem here. Anyone can see that, you drew up the comparison with the Xbox 360 4GB model which was an invalid one.

The underlying point is that if you have 4 games installed that have installs, it's likely you will have to delete one of those installs to play a 5th and spend 5-10 mins installing just to play the game. Then if you want to play that game you just deleted the install data for....Well you get the jist.

This IMO and would assume most people's is not acceptable in any way shape or form and doesn't make Sony look good.