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naruball said:
kowenicki said:
mantlepiecek said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:

With the new, sexy, smaller PS3 do you think it has what it takes to finally come out on top in a holiday season?

The price for the model is similar to the old slim, but it's far sleeker and there's a cheaper 12GB model available in Europe.

Wii U won't be a factor, because it only has around one month to sell. It doesn't look like MS are going to do much either. WIi...no need to mention that.

Disagree? Agree? Discuss below


It isnt sexy.  Its just b etter looking than the frankly fugly current slim.

It is more expensive.  You have stated "cheaper 12GB for Europe".  It is more expensive.

 

Also, define dominate.  The Wii came close to domination a few times but didnt make it.  The 360 and PS3 have never and will never dominate.

 

I expect the PS3 and 360 to end the year pretty much level after the 360 beats the PS3 over the holidays.   Buzz will surround the WiiU.  The PS3 stands to lose out a lot in Japan at the end of the year, the 360 sells nothing there so it has nothing to lose.

Wait, what does a 160GB cost right now in Euros (official price?

"Dominate" is a fancy term for coming out on top, at least these days.

Japan laps up new models, plus RE6 is coming (with huge pre-orders). I think they might do better there this year than last (for this period). Possibly

So a misuse of the word dominate then? Ok.

a 160GB with a game bundled is £199 in all stores here these days, sometimes less.  I am assuming the 12GB will be £199 too.

Japan will be hyped for WiiU and it will dominate their minds through december.

No, just an evolution of it

Well you can't compare discounted store prices to official prices. I'm sure there will be some killer deals this holiday for the new model

Why cant I?

Thats what people are used to paying at EVERY store now and as someone else has already pointed out, its actually much less if you are prepared to shop sround (I was being kind)

Lets be frank, its a poor deal.  The product is suspect (juggling installs will be tiresome) and its more expensive.  Its a terrible deal for the consumer.

I dont understand how anyone can see this iteration as good

There a lot of games that don't require installs. I am sure this will be good for them.

PS+ users won't benefit from this though. Which is why there is another sku for them.

12 GB is still enough to play GT 5 installed.

You say that likes it a good thing... surely its a given.

So if GT5 is installed and you want to play it regularly (dipping in and out as people do with that typoe of game), but at the same time you are playing other bigger games?  you are screwed?

Its a joke.

Right. And 360 5gb isn't? Just like there are people who don't mind the 5gb 360, there are people who don't play GT 5 or simply buy a ps3 for COD and Fifa. Different people, different tastes/needs.


1. Xbox 360 has a 4GB version, not 5GB. How ignorant.

2. GT5 install is basically mandatory for smooth experience.

3. Most PS3 games when installed load at a similar speed to Xbox 360 games that aren't installed. When you install a game on an Xbox 360, it generally loads much faster than when not installed.

4. At least 2GB of the 12GB will be put aside for caching, so useable will be about 10GB, give or take a few hundred MB.

5. It's not about different tastes or needs. It's that the PS3 has MANDATORY installs and the ones that are optional are generally considered MANDATORY to achive a decent loading time. The Xbox 360 doesn't have MANDATORY installs - EVER. When you install and Xbox 360 game, it is a bonus speed up in loading. It's base loading speed is very close  or better to PS3 games when they are installed. There are a sprinkling of games with long loading times where an install is considered mandatory IMO but we are talking 3-4 maximum and installing them even then doesn't "fix" those games into loading super fast but helps.

6. Sorry for repeating myself a little in 5. but you don't seem to understand.

7. Capish?